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Parapsycho warnings in the water? Anyone?

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There are alot of things I'd love to touch upon in your post, it's very rich but I (enjoyably) got hung up - "identified" with the theme of non-identification. :)

Another way to look at non identification:
It’s a very big word, so big it encompasses time and space. Imagine you’re looking at a train on the horizon, as long as it’s there and moving away your perception is locked on it, absorbed by it and you are not aware of anything else, much like seeing a pretty girl passing on the sidewalk just before you crash your car! You aren’t even aware of yourself!

What happened to the observer, he didn’t exist, all his attention was on the object of perception and his own individuality lost, projected into what he was looking at.

The moment the train disappears behind the horizon one is “free” again and starts to move the eyes around looking for something interesting. Immediately one gets absorbed by some other point of interest or a thought, a feeling, a conversation, anything – but all these activities also bind the observer with the observed and ones individuality takes the shape or colors of the object of perception. And so on and so on and so on…

We are always merging our individuality with the contours, shapes, textures, whatever of our perceived objects and thoughts. The question here is have we ever experienced our own awareness in its pure state? Being awake inside, conscious of only pure awareness but without any object of perception?

The state of pure awareness or pure consciousness is the screen that everything our senses throw at us falls on – but because of its silent nature it easily gets over-shadowed and lost or hidden. How many of us think about the screen at the movies? We get totally absorbed in the movie but forget the existence of the screen, yet without the screen the movie can’t be projected. We are a walking screen and yet due to the “noise” of all our perceptions we ignore our own deepest nature.

Beyond our thoughts and feelings, or subtlest or most abstract mental activity there lies our field of pure consciousness, or Being or Self or however you want to call it. We get close to it in our quietest moments, or curiously sometimes when we are in a life threatening situation and we experience something in us that is way more powerful than anything we have experienced before helping us to survive.

If one can experience it in its pure state one finds that it is unbounded in nature, all trains have disappeared from our horizons, our awareness is not limited anymore by any object of perception and we experience transcendence, samadhi, Absolute Being. There is no mystery in all of this, it’s just a matter of experience. At that point, in its absolute stillness, in its eternal nature and infinite range, there is no identification. There is nothing to grasp, there is nothing to see, there is even nothing to “be”. In this state the human nervous system is finally waking up to experiencing the hidden or silent side of life – the Absolute nature of life.

Up to now we have been experiencing relativity, the ever changing nature of manifest life, and we have completely identified with this as “normal” and we say we are “freedivers” or “doctors” and we do this and that, and we “have” (such a misleading word) a car, a house, a partner, everything that we happily bond to and identify with and scream with anger and squirm with anguish if we perceive we are losing our “valuable” possessions. In fact we measure ourselves and rate ourselves through our possessions and activities. What else is there to do? Very few have been shown anything else. What I mean is that it’s societies norm.

Little by little, (or suddenly – depending on the individual) experiencing pure consciousness shows us that we actually are that unbounded state of awareness at our deepest level of existence, and that it is the ocean compared to being a drop of water, as if finally the wave realizes that there is no difference between it and the ocean, that it is just a manifestation with both individuality and an absolute nature. Both together are the play and display of nature, of creation, but the manifest without the unmanifest is prone to suffering due to its identification with something existing in pure temporality.

We establish our happiness by identifying ourselves with relative objects of perception, whether they be persons as in a relationship, activities that make us feel special or amassing wealth, fame or whatever. That’s not bad in itself, and we should fulfil our desires, but the problem is that we change, what we identify with changes and therefore our relationship with what makes us happy changes too and we end up in a constant state of flux making for a pretty rough boat ride over the sea of life. Sound familiar?

So to wind this up cause it’s getting too long, there is that unbounded state within ourselves, that’s what yoga and the eastern traditions are all about. And that is what many many western religious saints have experienced but have written about in their own expressions and context. If you get past the different cultural and intellectual baggage everybody carries, the nitty gritty stands out like a shining light. It’s a universal reality. The beautiful thing is that you don’t have to believe in it. It’s there. If you want it you just have to look inside, diving deep inside, something that freedivers are pretty good at. ;)

How can one identify oneself with something temporal when one knows through direct experience that one is infinite and eternal? The question doesn’t even arise, it’s like “Where does the darkness go when the light goes on?” The darkness never existed in the first place, it was just the absence of light. The wave was always the ocean, it just forgot. We were always unbounded, we just forgot too.

And curiously too, if we “forget” our identification with relative existence we find we’ll come home, where we always were in the first place. In an unbounded ocean of silence in motion.

Adrian
 
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Identification

thanks :)

I like Rumi too.

and Carp
 
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well okay

Your post is eloquent - and very thorough.

The answer to the question :"How can one identify oneself with something temporal when one knows through direct experience that one is infinite and eternal?" is -

when there is an awakening or 'shift in the axis of identity' - as we are talking about, there remain patterns and tendancies in the psycho-physical being.

Another successful carp-sneak tonight - close to sunset in about 8 meters of water. Waited on the bottom - under a roof of hazy thermalcline but with clear blue bottom water in the steep lighting - came in from out of the gloom - spooked when my daughter moved - about fifty feet away on the surface. So these bad-boys are very wary for some reason.
 
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Those patterns sure grab a hold of you don't they! :head

As for carp, you really like them. :) So stately, such grace in an unassuming form. You didn't know they are the zen masters of the fish world? Don't worry if they seem wary, they are just testing your resolution. And once they deem you ready, and the scales drop from your eyes, well, you tell me! :D

Adrian
 
First there are scales..

they dream the universe, you know
them and the coelacanths.

The joy is in the sneakage :)
 
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