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Sea Angling for Spearos

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Good work Andy (was it work) keep them comming, I have a feeling this is going to be your year.
 
Was it work?? Well it was rather easy for a change, just a shame they were small ones. Never fished that spot on the drop, maybe the larger ones are there on the rise?? It's an area which is speared fairly regularly though low water not high and also netted (Grrrrrrr) very rough ground, close to Ronez (ish). Did well only losing 1 set of gear and that was a fish's fault!!

Well I hope this will be the year Mart!! It's been a long time coming if it is. Still not a specimen to my name this year as yet. Even Magpie's ahead of me on that one and I have a long way to go to catch up with Stevie G!! Come close a couple of times and at least I am catching.

Unlikely to fish again until the weekend now, feeling rubbish, maybe I was out in the cold too much this weekend digging bait and fishing face into that wind last night.

Might think of having a go for a big pollack on the weekend, spinning gear at the ready and trudge down to a cliff mark over a large arch, which I feel at my weight I need to run over......
 
I have some jelly worms, mainly black with red tails. What do reckon will take them, pollock/flatties? Are you also using bait for scent? I wasn't sure what sort of hooks to use for jelly worms. I've used lead-heads before (I thought it was mad but recently saw this a top 50 lure in the USA!). In the US they have special hooks with a kink near the eye for jelly worms -- saw a video on you tube about how to use them. I was thinking maybe a biggish Aberdeen or circle (only because I have quite a lot of them) but I think rubber eels, which are similar, usually have pretty large, strong hooks (O'Shaunessy?).

Depends how and where you fish them. They are mostly known for pollack fishing from a boat where you fish them off a boom with about a 10' trace. this way they can be skipped or worked right up the water. Best hook for this are 'jelly worm hooks' with the point set in the worm... beyond that aberdeen patterns or similar in a fairly heavy guage would be best.

the way I've been using them tho is just as an attractor above a baited hook. Just basic paternoster rigs with the worm in place of other attractors like beads, sequins, spinnerblades and coloured tubing that I'd usually use. this way the worm is threaded onto the line and the hook lays just below the tail (I cut the firetails off to stop em fouling).
when I switched rigs to the worm ones the bites came in a bit faster... took cod, dabs and whiting. the whiting where hitting it on the retrieve so it was probably acting a bit more like a lure those times so its a good rig to fish actively for flatties. No doubt it will be a hit with pollack in the summer and I reckon it will take a good few haddock as well.
 
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ADM,

Nice haul! fish weren't bad either :) Is that gizmo waterproof? would be interesting to take it diving (what is the scrap value of WWII mines?).
That Verm sounds like some good sheeet. you ain't the only one having a tough start to the year, my bait is all going to waste, the bad weather has seen me miss out on the best cod fishing. My best is a poxy 5kgs this year so far, last year saw a few over that already and the sun was splittin the sky.
Maybe summer can rescue the year.
 
Hey Davie if I wanted to come & fish your waters with my mate what would be the best time of year (shore & boat rod fishing not spearing)
Mart.
 
On jelly worms, I have used them from the shore for Pollack in deeper water, either using a lead head, much easier option or on a spinning rig, i.e. a bullet lead on the line, bead then swivel then trace to the jelly worm, problem with that set up I think has been covered is tangling on the cast. Best used in deeper water so you can sink and draw more effectively.

Davie, the metal detector thingy does work underwater but only to 3 inches or something. No doubt there would be proper underwater ones, not sure I would want to know how expensive though!!
 
I believe Miles said it best in his first reply.

In the northern hemispere this time of year the bays and inlets are your best bet for bass. when the water's this cold(for spearing) I use a 13' and 15' spin surfcaster to get deep at high tide(prefferably morns).
The family will enjoy it as my kids were weaned on fishing and diving and when in town my son is my fishing/spearing bud. (p.s. we don't leave 'til he gets a bigger fish !..

Tom
 
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Hey Davie if I wanted to come & fish your waters with my mate what would be the best time of year (shore & boat rod fishing not spearing)
Mart.

Around here locally in the westland (near haugesund) the best time is Now (crap weather this yr tho) in my opinion. Springtime gives good opportunities for Seatrout and decent cod (best before easter). Flatfish are inshore from spring thru to the warmer months... the plaice probably don't compare to yours but the dabs here are up to just over a kilo before spawning and Lemon sole are plentiful, inshore in spring and deeper year round and smaller halibut 2-3kg are taken from the shore too. If you go to the right places there are chances for Wolffish and other oddities from the shore.
There are deepwater marks all over tho due to the geography and its possible to catch ling, Norwegian redfish and brosme at some spots as well as the various small shark species. From a boat here you can catch ling to possibly 20 kilo or more and decent sized brosme.

That said... the best fishing in Norway is in the arctic circle... places like røst and sørøya are world famous for big fish, Warmer months being the best there. Early spring there they catch big breeding cod around 30-40 kilos... Thats no typo. But the best of the fishing is summer with big coalies, big halibut, cod, redfish, brosme etc. etc.
I'm going up to Tromsø for my birthday in may... bit early but can't choose my birthday. we have a cabin booked for 4 nights and a 20 ft boat for 3 days. If the weather holds out it should be a cracking trip. going to this place.
Another place worth mentioning would be Saltstraumen near bodø which is home to a frightening maelstrom... heaviest in the world. This is another big fish hotspot... I definately have to visit there myself.

Did You have any preferences for a destination or time of year? There is always something to do.
I could prattle on about fish for days but i should probably mention that Norway is an absolutely stunning country with plenty of mountains to explore and freshwater lakes with trout and arctic char to be fished (did i just mention fish again?). Some cool cities too, full of attractions too various to list and good activity holidays for diving, kayaking, hiking, hunting etc.

There are reputable companies that organise trips from the UK like DinTur AS.
If you prefer to organise things yourself then lemme know what you have in mind and I'll point you in the right direction if I can.
If you do decide to come to Norway I'm sure you'll have a great time.
 
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On jelly worms, I have used them from the shore for Pollack in deeper water, either using a lead head, much easier option or on a spinning rig, i.e. a bullet lead on the line, bead then swivel then trace to the jelly worm, problem with that set up I think has been covered is tangling on the cast. Best used in deeper water so you can sink and draw more effectively.

Davie, the metal detector thingy does work underwater but only to 3 inches or something. No doubt there would be proper underwater ones, not sure I would want to know how expensive though!!

Leadheads are the sensible option for fishing jelly worms from shore... the other option can cause long discussions on forums :D
finding the right leadhead has been a problem once or twice for me with various long jellies, the cheap ones always get bitten off.

Shame about the detector, i'll bet the interesting stuff is underwater as well as all the cracked off leads from big casts.
 
Fishy reportings from norway...

Crackin seatrout today...
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had that and a little one that lived to fight another day... nice afternoon :) .... as long as we don't mention the old firm match.
 
Nice one!! more than I had... Just bloney beaks for us, better than a blank though. The spider crabs seem to be in now, every single bottom fished bait was coming back with hooks rather messily removed.
 
Beaks... Gars? Those crabs would do my nut in! Bottom fishing has been dissapointing here lately, think i should stick to the Trout for the most part now, there are some nice fish around now.
 
Yes, Garfish, beaks, longnose, snipe and likely other names for them as well. The crabs wee annpying, mainly as they seemed to insist on chopping the whole trace and not just the hook and immediately above so have to replace the trace each cast and when there were 3 rods out it got a bit much!!

The mullet were absent again, as they tend to be when targetted, though I suspect one missed hook up, one of the boys I was guiding hit a bite and it looked and he said felt very heavy for the few moments it was on, not very like a small beak, best one was only about 7-8oz.
 
UK LIDL SELLING FISHING STUFF NEXT WEEK ....

Looks like the annual Lidl fish stuff is early this year. Cheapie no frill stuff but I know some of you take the chance to stock up on lures ;>)
 
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Yes, Garfish, beaks, longnose, snipe and likely other names for them as well. The crabs wee annpying, mainly as they seemed to insist on chopping the whole trace and not just the hook and immediately above so have to replace the trace each cast and when there were 3 rods out it got a bit much!!

The mullet were absent again, as they tend to be when targetted, though I suspect one missed hook up, one of the boys I was guiding hit a bite and it looked and he said felt very heavy for the few moments it was on, not very like a small beak, best one was only about 7-8oz.

Gars, Bass, Mullet... is it summer there already? Incredible the difference between here and there. I like catching gars on the fly, especially when they walk on their tails... it's like walking your pet fish on a leash.
Those crabs sound hard to live with, I'd start plotting their destruction if I were based over there.

So whats all this guiding stuff? You showing tourists around the fishing there? I'd heard rumblings from some Norwegian anglers about taking a trip out that way.
 
UK LIDL SELLING FISHING STUFF NEXT WEEK ....

Looks like the annual Lidl fish stuff is early this year. Cheapie no frill stuff but I know some of you take the chance to stock up on lures ;>)

Hahaha... same here! I got a pod last year that broke on its 4th outing. Think I'll grab another and reinforce it this time. hope they get beach shelters in again too and bite alarms... roll on Lidl fishing week!
 
Gars, Bass, Mullet... is it summer there already? Incredible the difference between here and there. I like catching gars on the fly, especially when they walk on their tails... it's like walking your pet fish on a leash.
Those crabs sound hard to live with, I'd start plotting their destruction if I were based over there.

So whats all this guiding stuff? You showing tourists around the fishing there? I'd heard rumblings from some Norwegian anglers about taking a trip out that way.
Well it doesn't feel like summer!! And those fish which are caught around now are hard work to get and not without many hours of blanking. I do like gars at times, just not when I want something else. a gar over a lb on light gear like that used for mullet (i'm now using a 1lb t/c Avon rod) can be great fun.

I do guide tourists and locals fishing locally, though success all depends upon expectation.
 
When is the best time over there? Can one expect large Turbot on a weeks fishing there or does it take a bit of luck?
 
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