It does say going more than 2 knots will cause them to spin. I've got a few good catchers that do the same if you go too quick... all short fat wobblers with big diving vanes actually.
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Sea Angling for Spearos
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It does say going more than 2 knots will cause them to spin. I've got a few good catchers that do the same if you go too quick... all short fat wobblers with big diving vanes actually.
You mean He doesn't know why he keeps catching these Bass?!?!
Wish I didn't know how to catch them
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I have to say that i really dont know much at all about dangling, i've just applied the few 'rules' that people have shared with me: blue/silver = bass lure & wiggly tail + feather = better. now you know what i do!
I was pretty sure that Magpie or Portinfer would come back with at least one monster fish, but i guess that'll be saved for next time...
Another 'numpty question... Having soaked my reel the last few times in the kayak (and probably every time in the future...) is there a simple way to take it to bits? i tried doing the 'obvious' removing the spool and taking out all the visible screws, handle, etc but it doesnt come to bits?? it's quite stiff now. I tried googling for a website with piccies but to no avail... any ideas?
I have to say that i really dont know much at all about dangling, i've just applied the few 'rules' that people have shared with me: blue/silver = bass lure & wiggly tail + feather = better. now you know what i do!
I was pretty sure that Magpie or Portinfer would come back with at least one monster fish, but i guess that'll be saved for next time...
Another 'numpty question... Having soaked my reel the last few times in the kayak (and probably every time in the future...) is there a simple way to take it to bits? i tried doing the 'obvious' removing the spool and taking out all the visible screws, handle, etc but it doesnt come to bits?? it's quite stiff now. I tried googling for a website with piccies but to no avail... any ideas?
What kinda reel you using Jonny? You prolly need to study the diagram that comes with in the box.
For the future tho... Most reels will survive just fine with a rinse in fresh water (not soak), drying off and a light mist or wipe with a WD40 soaked cloth tho finish... all this with drag tightened then loosened afterwards.
For the future tho... Most reels will survive just fine with a rinse in fresh water (not soak), drying off and a light mist or wipe with a WD40 soaked cloth tho finish... all this with drag tightened then loosened afterwards.
Thanks atomic, i have a matchtek II RDX40 ?? on one rod and an okuma Zeon ZR40 on the other (whatever that means!!) They were both sold to me as 'match' spinning reels, although i dont really know what 'match' implies - they have served very well before getting dunked! they are fixed spool reels with only small spools.
Main point is that having filled all the bearings etc with sea water i think i need to dismantle them to thoroghly flush and preserve. i couldnt actually turn the handle on the matchtek on Sunday morning, took a few gentle 'persuasions' to get it moving!
an oil-bath seems to have helped (will have to try it on the reel too rofl).
Main point is that having filled all the bearings etc with sea water i think i need to dismantle them to thoroghly flush and preserve. i couldnt actually turn the handle on the matchtek on Sunday morning, took a few gentle 'persuasions' to get it moving!
an oil-bath seems to have helped (will have to try it on the reel too rofl).
I don't have much experience with those sort of reels, My only fixed spool reel just needs a drop of oil in a little hole in one side every month or 5 uses and greasing on the external movin bits.
You don't want salt crystals buiding up on bearings tho it can roughen them up real bad in no time even if they are stainless.
If they work ok afterwards then make sure to rinse them each trip from now on... it's the difference between years and months of use. good oiling and greasing on the right bits every so often is good too of course.
When they start siezing up it can be too late. one of My daiwa baitcasters started having an uneven drag and the handle would be tight and the anti reverse would drop for a few turns right out of nowhere so I decided to take it apart and give it a proper servicing... one of the main nuts that hold it together had rusted so bad and gotten all fused it couldn't be taken apart and had to be binned.
You don't want salt crystals buiding up on bearings tho it can roughen them up real bad in no time even if they are stainless.
If they work ok afterwards then make sure to rinse them each trip from now on... it's the difference between years and months of use. good oiling and greasing on the right bits every so often is good too of course.
When they start siezing up it can be too late. one of My daiwa baitcasters started having an uneven drag and the handle would be tight and the anti reverse would drop for a few turns right out of nowhere so I decided to take it apart and give it a proper servicing... one of the main nuts that hold it together had rusted so bad and gotten all fused it couldn't be taken apart and had to be binned.
I saw something on cleaning reels recently. I think it was somebody from Shimano in an on-line video. Might be on the Shimano website or youtube. I usually only rinse my fixed spool reels if they have been splashed with sea water or sand, & then just run them under a cold water tap, wipe them, spray with light spray (WD-40 or silicone) & then wipe that off. The solid skirts give pretty good protection (don't like to see holes in the spool-skirt of fixed-spool reels - daft cosmetics, less protection & another thing for line & hooks to get caught/jammed in:head).
Jonny, when you say feathers, do you mean treble-hooks dress with feathers? You can buy these easily in the USA, if you have lures that didn't come with them but they are hard to find in the UK - I found one place that had them but they were ridiculously expensive. I have tied a few of my own but would rather find a reasonably priced source of pro-made ones.
Are "plug eels" those Eddystone plugs with the eddstone eel tail? Saw 3 for sale on eBay this weekend, 2 small & 1 large. Was tempted but they were odd colours, not particularly cheap (even discounted) and there was no info. on length (I think there are 3 sizes and the largest is pretty big, 20cm)/weight.
Jonny, when you say feathers, do you mean treble-hooks dress with feathers? You can buy these easily in the USA, if you have lures that didn't come with them but they are hard to find in the UK - I found one place that had them but they were ridiculously expensive. I have tied a few of my own but would rather find a reasonably priced source of pro-made ones.
Are "plug eels" those Eddystone plugs with the eddstone eel tail? Saw 3 for sale on eBay this weekend, 2 small & 1 large. Was tempted but they were odd colours, not particularly cheap (even discounted) and there was no info. on length (I think there are 3 sizes and the largest is pretty big, 20cm)/weight.
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I'd recommend and sure magpie will as well. DO NOT take a fixed spool reel apart unless you're an expert as you'll struggle to get it back together. Not like a multi which is dead easy that even I can do it...
They just need a good bath with fresh water from a hose over it all as soon as you can really to flush the salt out before it solidifies.
They just need a good bath with fresh water from a hose over it all as soon as you can really to flush the salt out before it solidifies.
Hi Guys
Had a weekend just gone in West Cork, Ireland with some friends. Managed to convince them that a walk along the rocky headland (by Dursey Island) was just what they needed. Took a travel spinning rod with me and had a great time catching loads of pollock of the rocks. Was using the storm wide eye sandeel looky likey. Just a 2oz lead and reeling in just above the kelp. Great sport even if the rod was a little actionless, would have probably been better if i had taken the braid spool for the reel.
Think I managed to convert one of the lads to fishing - he caught the biggest of the day - which we had on the bbq in the evening! Great sport and considering going back in the car so i can take many more rods for a bit of variety (oh will definately take the spearing gear next time as well), hundreds of mullet everywhere!
Had a weekend just gone in West Cork, Ireland with some friends. Managed to convince them that a walk along the rocky headland (by Dursey Island) was just what they needed. Took a travel spinning rod with me and had a great time catching loads of pollock of the rocks. Was using the storm wide eye sandeel looky likey. Just a 2oz lead and reeling in just above the kelp. Great sport even if the rod was a little actionless, would have probably been better if i had taken the braid spool for the reel.
Think I managed to convert one of the lads to fishing - he caught the biggest of the day - which we had on the bbq in the evening! Great sport and considering going back in the car so i can take many more rods for a bit of variety (oh will definately take the spearing gear next time as well), hundreds of mullet everywhere!
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Jonny, fixed spools can be complicated, but they also cannot. In general the cheaper model it is the easier it is to take apart (and more importantly get back together again).
I've stripped hundreds of reels over the years, and have only struggled once. I've got a posh Team Daiwa FS that came for a swim with me down Rocquaine once. No drama thought I, I'll strip it down, dry out and re grease....
Well the stripping down and oiling went ok...but on reassembly I just couldn't get all the bits back in, there was just no room, despite carefully noting what order each bit came out in and where it came from. Fortunately Daiwa reassembled the bag of bits I sent them and I got her back in tip top order (for no charge, top marks Daiwa!).
But that said I can't see yours being that bad and I'm happy to have a go at them if you want, showing you how to as you will need to regularly if being used from the kayak. Have you removed the rear drag knob? I'd guess that's what's stopping the side plate coming off (be careful when you do as you may get a series of washers come out with it and its important to put them back in the same order).
PS. "Match" spools are usually much shallower than a normal spool and don't hold anywhere near as much line. They're designed to be filled by 100m of 3-4lbsish line for freshwater fishing.
I've stripped hundreds of reels over the years, and have only struggled once. I've got a posh Team Daiwa FS that came for a swim with me down Rocquaine once. No drama thought I, I'll strip it down, dry out and re grease....
Well the stripping down and oiling went ok...but on reassembly I just couldn't get all the bits back in, there was just no room, despite carefully noting what order each bit came out in and where it came from. Fortunately Daiwa reassembled the bag of bits I sent them and I got her back in tip top order (for no charge, top marks Daiwa!).
But that said I can't see yours being that bad and I'm happy to have a go at them if you want, showing you how to as you will need to regularly if being used from the kayak. Have you removed the rear drag knob? I'd guess that's what's stopping the side plate coming off (be careful when you do as you may get a series of washers come out with it and its important to put them back in the same order).
PS. "Match" spools are usually much shallower than a normal spool and don't hold anywhere near as much line. They're designed to be filled by 100m of 3-4lbsish line for freshwater fishing.
Cheers Magpie, that all makes sense. I have managed to get the front off after removing the spool, pin and then the part with the bale arm attached, to give me access to the front bearings. i couldnt get the drag dial off the back which is why the side doesnt come off... and like you say, it's going to be a regular issue - so why no info on any of the kayak fishing sites??
I'd like to take you up on that offer of a demo, maybe after the next trip?
Hey stuckinsurrey, sounds like you had a good trip AND caught fish, result!
I'd like to take you up on that offer of a demo, maybe after the next trip?
Hey stuckinsurrey, sounds like you had a good trip AND caught fish, result!
No info because every reel will be different to some extent and no one would want to be respoonsible for someone moaning that they can't get their reel back together having followed the instructions probably.
Truth is, no matter how well you look after it, if you want a reel that will withstand a regular salt bath you've got to pay for it.
Truth is, no matter how well you look after it, if you want a reel that will withstand a regular salt bath you've got to pay for it.
I found out what my long lasting, abuse resisting reel is - its a Daiwa Emblem Pro 5500 st46381 from Fosters of Birmingham
Good tale StuckInSurrey - but who are the dodgy looking guys in hoodies?
2oz leads, sounds a lot to me for a spinning rod - I don't think I have cast more than 1.5oz/45g even though my rod is rated for 60g/2oz. Were you using a telescopic spinning rod, or something more substantial? What sort of hook do you use with the storm sandeels - 0/3-ish O'Shaunessy/Aberdeen? They look more realistic than most of the lures & gels I come across. I've resisted buying them as I have plenty of other lures to try out now - it's got to the point that I get "heat" whenever one of those tell-tale little lure packages appears in the post now.
2oz leads, sounds a lot to me for a spinning rod - I don't think I have cast more than 1.5oz/45g even though my rod is rated for 60g/2oz. Were you using a telescopic spinning rod, or something more substantial? What sort of hook do you use with the storm sandeels - 0/3-ish O'Shaunessy/Aberdeen? They look more realistic than most of the lures & gels I come across. I've resisted buying them as I have plenty of other lures to try out now - it's got to the point that I get "heat" whenever one of those tell-tale little lure packages appears in the post now.
That looks like a pretty substantial (large & strong) reel. Not cheap though. That boat multiplier looked pretty fancy (tough but pricey) too. I'm guessing you and OMD might have different approaches to angling gear.
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Its a 7 or 8 piece put together rod, comes apart and fits in a tube about 18" long. Fits in suitcase easily so can go everywhere we go! Its rated to 60g and took the weight no problem. Was pretty windy so was handly to have a heavier lead. Hook was a 2/0 uptide hook (just some I had in my box), fairly wide gap but strong. They do look good in the water as do the shads that storm sell (the ones with weights in), these also work for pike on the Thames....
A couple of times you could feel the pollock hit the eel behind the hook so just kept winding and waited for them to hit it again before they took it right in. Great fun!
Foxy - I have a couple of the Daiwa Emblem reels that I used to use for carping - good reels and will cast for miles!
A couple of times you could feel the pollock hit the eel behind the hook so just kept winding and waited for them to hit it again before they took it right in. Great fun!
Foxy - I have a couple of the Daiwa Emblem reels that I used to use for carping - good reels and will cast for miles!
Interesting. I think that must be a common problem as I have a seen couple of interesting solutions to that recently. In the Mythical Mullet video ML spins for mullet in Christchurch Harbour using a homemade spinner baited with a rag worm but he clips it short, just beyond the hook, so fish don't just nibble at the end.
The other solution I noticed on a lure video at the MonsterTackle website, the eel lure in question is fitted with an extra hook near the tail (obvious really!).
Storm Swim N' Eel £9.49 - Storm Soft Plastics - MonsterTackle.co.uk
This Storm Swim N' Eel looks pretty interesting but a bit pricey (although there are 2 per pkt), so I made my own version, using a rubber eel, a Lidl's coffin weight (at last a use!) which I hammered to resemble the Storm eel's "swimming head" & painted it black. Haven't tried it yet, was planning to try it with a rod from the yak in the Summer. Mine only has the single eel hook currently though. :hmmPennel rig?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CneYFwxZx9I]YouTube - Storm Swimmin Eel[/ame]
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Anyone tried these : Lucky Craft Real California (Lucky Craft real california)...
Despite being on the vaguely expensive side I am guessing that they would work well having seen firsthand teh devastation that a little more wiggle can cause (LC live plug).
Or is it better to whittle your own ?
Ed
Despite being on the vaguely expensive side I am guessing that they would work well having seen firsthand teh devastation that a little more wiggle can cause (LC live plug).
Or is it better to whittle your own ?
Ed