Sharks in QATAR, Identifying needed please!!

[sanadw]

When my friend dare and go Blue water in one of the deepest water in Qatar, he came back the second day and told me that he will never do it again!!!
he saw a school of giant hammer head sharks that came really close to him ...
at that time I laughed my ass out at him.... Giant sharks in Qatar .... come on man ..no way!!!!
I think its a school of Cubia that you miss identify them they really look like sharks in deep water...rofl

couple of days ago, and since I didn't saw a fish from two weeks:head, I went to the fish market at the early morning (actually it was night) .... from far away I start to see the bodys of these ghosts.... Huh are these sharks!!!???

jumped out of my car and went directly to the fisherman there.... where the hell are these from????
and he talked about the same area that we used to dive!!!!!:ko


Ok now things are really clear ...... I sure know those 100++ kg Hammer heads..

BUT what is the other one in the middle that is REALLY big ... almost double my size ???

any one know?? the tips of his fins are black!!!

is it aggressive..... any one know??

I really need to know, because now I need a new body here in qatar to dive with me the same area ..... any one mad enough .. and want to dive this water again with me??
guys we really need to shoot one of these .... it will be once in a life time adventure.... :friday

 

[baracuda]

When my friend dare and go Blue water in one of the deepest water in Qatar, he came back the second day and told me that he will never do it again!!!
he saw a school of giant hammer head sharks that came really close to him ...
at that time I laughed my ass out at him.... Giant sharks in Qatar .... come on man ..no way!!!!
I think its a school of Cubia that you miss identify them they really look like sharks in deep water...rofl

couple of days ago, and since I didn't saw a fish from two weeks:head, I went to the fish market at the early morning (actually it was night) .... from far away I start to see the bodys of these ghosts.... Huh are these sharks!!!???

jumped out of my car and went directly to the fisherman there.... where the hell are these from????
and he talked about the same area that we used to dive!!!!!:ko


Ok now things are really clear ...... I sure know those 100++ kg Hammer heads..

BUT what is the other one in the middle that is REALLY big ... almost double my size ???

any one know?? the tips of his fins are black!!!

is it aggressive..... any one know??

I really need to know, because now I need a new body here in qatar to dive with me the same area ..... any one mad enough .. and want to dive this water again with me??
guys we really need to shoot one of these .... it will be once in a life time adventure.... :friday

dude u had me at .. SHARK LOL

dude id dive with you ..... i have already dived at base 2 at halool at NIGHT right under the flame ..
and if u know that place you know its reputation iv seen sharks there 3 quarters the size of the boat

i think da shark in the pic is a black tip reef shark or a spinner shark
but this is the guy you gotta watch out for BULL SHARK http://www.sharkinfo.ch/images/si/bullshark.jpg

i have a film of guys spearing huge sharks comercially:martial ......i had a frend that was afraid of sharks after seeing the film he wants to shoot one

dont forget your the one holding the gun even if you have a 90cm omer u wont be bringing the shark back to the boat but u can make him forget about lunch rofl

plus dont forget there are no seals here so sharks arent use to eating things as big as humans thats why diffrent places in the world have the same sharks but some have shark attacks and others dont it depends what sharks are used to eating ........

a human can easliy be mistaken for a seal but in qatar the biggest thing a shark would eat is a big travally so as long as you dont look like a travally u should be safe

 

[island_sands]

Ok now things are really clear ...... I sure know those 100++ kg Hammer heads..

BUT what is the other one in the middle that is REALLY big ... almost double my size ???

any one know?? the tips of his fins are black!!!

is it aggressive..... any one know??

I really need to know, because now I need a new body here in qatar to dive with me the same area ..... any one mad enough .. and want to dive this water again with me??
guys we really need to shoot one of these .... it will be once in a life time adventure.... :friday

it maybe a black tip but it's nose is awfully like a bronze whaler - those can be aggressive

:rcard :rcard for that fish market. i have seen black tips in the fish market here in Shindagha as well :rcard

beautiful scalloped hammerheads too - shoot those fishermen!!!!

 

[gladiator]

dude u had me at .. SHARK LOL

dude id dive with you ..... i have already dived at base 2 at halool at NIGHT right under the flame ..
and if u know that place you know its reputation iv seen sharks there 3 quarters the size of the boat

i think da shark in the pic is a black tip reef shark or a spinner shark
but this is the guy you gotta watch out for BULL SHARK http://www.sharkinfo.ch/images/si/bullshark.jpg

i have a film of guys spearing huge sharks comercially:martial ......i had a frend that was afraid of sharks after seeing the film he wants to shoot one

dont forget your the one holding the gun even if you have a 90cm omer u wont be bringing the shark back to the boat but u can make him forget about lunch rofl

plus dont forget there are no seals here so sharks arent use to eating things as big as humans thats why diffrent places in the world have the same sharks but some have shark attacks and others dont it depends what sharks are used to eating ........

a human can easliy be mistaken for a seal but in qatar the biggest thing a shark would eat is a big travally so as long as you dont look like a travally u should be safe

Hey Baracuda:

This is very assuring to me that sharks will not attack here in Qatar. A buddy of mine last year was swimming deep in Khor Odaid and spotted a 2 meter hammer head. Every weekend I'm scared shi_less expecting to see one when I'm in khor odaid area. Now I can relax a bit. I'm more worried about my friend shooting the shark. You said that shooting a shark will prevent you from becoming lunch, but what if there are more than one shark in the area? wouldn't the blood attract them more and put them in hunting moode?

 

[tecdave]

Could be a silky Shark??

 

[Amphibious]

please be aware shark numbers in the Arabian Gulf are VERY low. blame polution, overfishing, gillnets, etc.... they is no skill involved in shooting one of these beasts. the "machismo" of shark fishing is blow way out of proportion. take it from someone who caught A LOT of sharks in his youth in the Gulf (young, dumbm, and didn;t know the facts). I if you're looking for a Gulf trophy I would suggest you forget the sharks are start chasing the tuna that frequent the gulf offshore in the winter, and leave what few sharks the Gulf has left alone. shark attacks in the gulf are VERY rare. don;t be afraid of them, respect them, and if you see one while hunting, just enjoy the experience.

really hope if you shoot one you intend on eating it.

 

[sanadw]

First of all .... I always eat what I shoot ... be sure of that ... will never shoot something for the fun of shooting only:rcard .

(ok maybe some times I shoot needlefish when target practicing:t , but those things are becoming like jelly fish here eating allot of the bait fish and taking the place of other species.)

now back to sharks.... First of all I think you can't compare spearfishing to commercial fishing .... think how much can a spearfishing man kill form those sharks in all his life??? .... I don't think that you can spear half the number of what I saw that day in the fish market!!! .
so please stop talking about not to spear this or that ... you can't compare what we shoot in all our life to one harvest of comerical fishing!!! don't you think so???
Come on for God sake Japanese are still shooting whales until this moment!:rcard

I think if I saw one of those in the water, I will not think twice in shooting it, unless there is rules against that!!!

CUDA my fellow friend ..... Man your totally Crazy..... Night dive under the flame ... man I don't even dare to think about it:head :naughty

I hope after the asian games will manage to fix my boat ... and will start or join your team ... name it the way you like:t . and will start raiding these deep waters ..... cause right now all my team is amateurs that can't be trusted as bodies!!:naughty
If you blackout or something .... they will enjoy watching you!!!!!:head

Yo ... CUDA what if you saw one of these .... will you spear it???:duh

... WHAT ABOUT YOU SARAH????

 

[Amphibious]

I think you will be very disapointed after the hunt. myself and both my spearfishing partners took large shark (6-7ft) when we were spearfishing in the gulf. they died very quickly, they were easy to shoot, and they were not very good to eat. after that the "adventure" of sspearing a shark was completly lost.

if you're concerned about the about of sharks harvested by commercial fisherman, wouldn't spearing one just be contributing to the overall take?

I spent over 10yrs spearfishing the gulf. every year I saw less sharks. every year the spearfishing got worse. coincidence? I think not.

 

[Pastor]

First of all I think you can't compare spearfishing to commercial fishing .... think how much can a spearfishing man kill form those sharks in all his life??? .... I don't think that you can spear half the number of what I saw that day in the fish market!!! .
so please stop talking about not to spear this or that ... you can't compare what we shoot in all our life to one harvest of comerical fishing!!! don't you think so???
Come on for God sake Japanese are still shooting whales until this moment!:rcard

I think if I saw one of those in the water, I will not think twice in shooting it, unless there is rules against that!!!

Does harvesting less make it right?

 

[sanadw]

Does harvesting less make it right?

I don't know whats the rules in your country!! But here there is no rules for commercial fishing.... there is only two rules for them here.... the size of the net and no shrimping!!!
they can fish any time of the year any place any QUANTITY!!!:rcard
allot of the fish, craps and lobster ... are still carrying there eggs ..... imagine how much can be saved if they just gave them the chance for a month or two to land there eggs!!???
very simple few rules can make a huge difference!!!???
the local fish and the very few reefs .... are almost reaching there end here, (Amphibious) is totally right ... every year is worst here.. ....
But is what we spear here can make a difference .... absolutely not:naughty .

(thats if we want to ignore pollution and Global Warming)

But do commercial fishing make things worse ....????
in this country, absolutely YES.

what a subjet!!!zzz :t

 

[baracuda]

Hey Baracuda:

This is very assuring to me that sharks will not attack here in Qatar. A buddy of mine last year was swimming deep in Khor Odaid and spotted a 2 meter hammer head. Every weekend I'm scared shi_less expecting to see one when I'm in khor odaid area. Now I can relax a bit. I'm more worried about my friend shooting the shark. You said that shooting a shark will prevent you from becoming lunch, but what if there are more than one shark in the area? wouldn't the blood attract them more and put them in hunting moode?

sharks are everywhere i saw a 1 and a half meter one in 3 foot of water at safliya island i was just standing on the shore 5 mins later me and my frends were all swimming in the exact spot........

there is a spot that we dive at that onetime i was fishing with a 100kg line and i hooked something that pulled the boat around for 20mins before breaking the line ... a few days later we were diving in the same spot again

i think if you shot a big shark its unlikley another big shark is the same area its rare anough to see one ..,most sharks here are small "although hammers do school together"

 

[baracuda]

First of all .... I always eat what I shoot ... be sure of that ... will never shoot something for the fun of shooting only

(ok maybe some times I shoot needlefish when target practicing:t , but those things are becoming like jelly fish here eating allot of the bait fish and taking the place of other species.)

now back to sharks.... First of all I think you can't compare spearfishing to commercial fishing .... think how much can a spearfishing man kill form those sharks in all his life??? .... I don't think that you can spear half the number of what I saw that day in the fish market
so please stop talking about not to spear this or that ... you can't compare what we shoot in all our life to one harvest of comerical fishing!!! don't you think so???
Come on for God sake Japanese are still shooting whales until this moment

I think if I saw one of those in the water, I will not think twice in shooting it, unless there is rules against that!!!

CUDA my fellow friend ..... Man your totally Crazy..... Night dive under the flame ... man I don't even dare to think about it:head :naughty

I hope after the asian games will manage to fix my boat ... and will start or join your team ... name it the way you like:t . and will start raiding these deep waters ..... cause right now all my team is amateurs that can't be trusted as bodies!!:naughty
If you blackout or something .... they will enjoy watching you!!!!!:head

Yo ... CUDA what if you saw one of these .... will you spear it???:duh

... WHAT ABOUT YOU SARAH????

for suuure man ...

there are sooo many locations that have unexplored underwater structures that are full of fish...u need to drop a anchor and drive very slowly until it hooks up on something to find them . " and if you find something that nobody knows about get ready for BIG FISH !!!

and about the picture : you say so eat everything u shoot .. i advise you NOT to shoot that then rofl rofl

o ya and guess what i saw at base 2 one time when we were collecting lobster ------> http://www.chem.ucla.edu/dept/Faculty/chanfreau/images/cocos2004/Sailfish.jpeg

i dont think anyone has every speared one in qatar !!!

 

[Craig Thailand]

Check out this bad boy that i saw on the Burma banks 2 weeks ago, 5 meters and fast.

Sanadw - After taking a roasting from a user on here about a previous comment it is great to see someone that is under the same impression as i am, people shoot all kinds of fish everyday of the week, but as soon as I mention shark and speargun in the same sentance its all hisses and boos.:head Wake up people we are all spear fishermen and we all enjoy the sport as well as the meals. I have enough money to put food on the table but i enjoy the sport and the challange, but I always eat what I shoot, however ifIi shoot a big shark it will be as a trophy not a meal, that is me being honest. When we see 150kg marlin being shot do these people think that it is going on the table, I doubt it very much. I really want to shoot a big shark and if you are serious about doing this I would like to fly out there and join you, if I may?

Amphibious - One reason that i may not shoot a shark is the excact one you mention in your post, you have shot big sharks in the past and can you really say they are poor fighters? It would make sence because whenever I have caught them on rod and line they don't fight as well as a tuna of the same wieght. A 100kg bluefin puts up a much bigger fight than a 100kg Bullshark. I have thought about this many times and it is the only reason i can see not to shoot one. Could you describe what it was like, the catch in detail, of a big shark? I would like to hear a non biassed opinion from someone that has already done what I am planning to do. You must have been in the same situation as I am now, planning, hoping, imagining.
Thanx in Advance

 

[Qatar_hunter]

First of all .... I always eat what I shoot ... be sure of that ... will never shoot something for the fun of shooting only.

(ok maybe some times I shoot needlefish when target practicing:t , but those things are becoming like jelly fish here eating allot of the bait fish and taking the place of other species.)

now back to sharks.... First of all I think you can't compare spearfishing to commercial fishing .... think how much can a spearfishing man kill form those sharks in all his life??? .... I don't think that you can spear half the number of what I saw that day in the fish market!!! .
so please stop talking about not to spear this or that ... you can't compare what we shoot in all our life to one harvest of comerical fishing!!! don't you think so???
Come on for God sake Japanese are still shooting whales until this moment!:rcard

I think if I saw one of those in the water, I will not think twice in shooting it, unless there is rules against that!!!

CUDA my fellow friend ..... Man your totally Crazy..... Night dive under the flame ... man I don't even dare to think about it:head :naughty

I hope after the asian games will manage to fix my boat ... and will start or join your team ... name it the way you like:t . and will start raiding these deep waters ..... cause right now all my team is amateurs that can't be trusted as bodies!!:naughty
If you blackout or something .... they will enjoy watching you!!!!!:head

Yo ... CUDA what if you saw one of these .... will you spear it???:duh

... WHAT ABOUT YOU SARAH????

Sanad I do have Baracuda on vedio cam diving under the flame ----Just bettwen you and I dont tell him that I lost this type---:vangry

 

[island_sands]

Sanad I do have Baracuda on vedio cam diving under the flame ----Just bettwen you and I dont tell him that I lost this type---:vangry

rofl rofl oops! heheheheh

How's your weighting coming along?

 

[sanadw]

Sanad I do have Baracuda on vedio cam diving under the flame ----Just bettwen you and I dont tell him that I lost this type---:vangry

OK OK ....
Yo Cuda ..... actually I don't believe that you dove under the flame at night, do you have any thing to prove it????? ..:t


(just joking).


Carig thailand..... just go for it.... the way you like man, the only thing that you should think about is your safty... A monster like that could put you in serious troubles..... make 100% sure of your float line, any small tangle with a thing like that could cost you your life .....:crutch :naughty
Or even worse ... if you miss him rofl and he come back to you ... make sure to give him a good reason for shooting at him!!!!!:blackeye

no modern spearo's in this world spear to eat!!!! ... its the sport and the Adrenalin ...

else you can go ...sell one of your masks and buy 30 kg of fish to eat and feed your family!!!!!!

 

[miles]

Hiya

I've seen some of the catch's Nesim has posted. You guys are EXTREMELY fortunate to have such good spearing!!! Why you guys are interested in spearing sharks is simply beyond my comprehension.

There's not much challenge shooting those SMALL little sharks posted in the earlier pictures. They'll bend your spear and possibly try and take a chunk out of you, but at that size, they're not much danger to a spearo. You guys want some sports, why not TRY and shoot a proper shark?? Something like a 3m Mako or a 3m Tiger or a 4m Great White or a 3m Bull/Zambezi sharks?? That aught to be LOADS of fun!!! I'd actually PAY to see any of you guys even get INTO the water with a big brute like that swimming around.

The problem arises on where to draw the line. If i follow the reasoning of the members in the threads above, then, is it ok to spear dolphins? What about manta rays? Or sunfish (mola-mola)? Or even whales for that matter!! See what i'm getting at??

I consider small sharks to be part of my diving experience. Something to brighten up my dives. Just like big rays and sunfish (mola-mola). I too hunt for the sport, but targetting sharks simply isn't sporting!! It's reckless, wastefull and gives spearfisherman a bad name. Whats missing here is simply respect for marine life. Remember, when you're out spearfishing, you are NOT the apex predator!! Be safe and be the hunter and NOT the hunted.........

Just my .02c worth.....

Regards
miles

ps. some pictures of sharks that you should be on the look-out for......

 

[blumon]

Way to go Miles ...unseasoned watermen ... Mother Ocean will bite back!

 

[Craig Thailand]

Agreed.......... it really does come down to where WE draw the line INDIVIDUALLY, don't you think. I know how experienced you are in this sport and how relatively new I am to it, I don't pretend to be some kind of guru but I was wondering have you ever killed a shark? Amphibious seems to be very experienced in this sport and has gone from EVIL SHARK KILLER:rcard to acceptable member of the community:inlove , what about you?
It seems a little weird that so many people shoot 'x years old' giant tuna with out battering an eye lid, but moan about someone that wants to kill a single shark in his life. If these people were vegetarians I would say "you have a strong and valid opinion" If these people were not vegetarians I would ask them if they think shark fins are collected humanly and how many they think are killed a year? If these people were spearos that are in the same oceans as me, doing the same thing as me, but killing a fish with a different name I would have to ask them where the real difference is at . Is it because there are so few sharks in the ocean (how many billfish are left or even Tuna compared to 20 years ago) or maybe they think its because we are a guest in their watery world and should show them the respect they deserve (what about all the other fish, do they not have an equal right?)
With regards to shooting dolphins or Mola Mola, turtles or whales, well maybe there are some people on here that would think that is acceptable, I don't personally but I would have to respect the others opinion, don't you agree? For example I don't eat octopus or cuttlefish because I think they are amazing creatures but my wife loves to eat it. What can I do?, make her stop because I don't agree, like hell I would be the next thing on a plate. :blackeye
My point is exactly the same as Miles' it is all about where we draw the line as individuals.
I think as spearos we all have a list in our heart of hearts that says what is acceptable and what is not (with regards to target species I mean) we may have a wish list of what we want to shoot before we miss the chance for me the 2 I seek are a sailfish and the other is a shark. Now, I see pics of divers with huge marlin that they have shot or giant bluefin and yellowfins and that is classed as ok by the majority, for me marlin should be left in the ocean where they deserve to be, but that is just my personal opinion about that species, nothing more.
Miles - I was kind of planning on having a slightly more level playing field than going up against a 3 or 4 meter monster like you mentioned, and even though you are willing to pay, I would have to decline your offer of diving with them beasts.:duh Miles please don't misunderstand me as some control freak that needs to get his fix of testosterone through killing his way to the top. I realize that these sharks are the most awesome predators in the water and would eat me for breakfast. To be frank they scare the hell out of me , but I never claimed to be doing this for the glory. I would like to take a single shark in my life time it is on MY wish list.
If you think about it, so few sharks go to spearos it is really a miniscule difference that it makes, I understand that one more is worse than one less in the opinion of the masses but looking at the big picture is it really a big issue. It is not like I will be killing sharks whenever I dive, it would be one for myself. I realize that I am a member of the minority here, but we still have an opinion on this topic and although a lot of people may disagree there are some that still have sharks on their lists.

no modern spearo's in this world spear to eat!!!! ... its the sport and the Adrenalin ...:king :thankyou

Agreed buddy, I am glad that you feel the same way, we all eat what we shoot but it is the thrill of the chase that keeps me hooked not just the great tasting steaks. Talking about floats, what size float do you think would be needed for a shark of say 2 meters? I caught a 2 meter tiger and we attached a oil drum to a runner then on the swivel then let it swim and it disappeared a couple of times.

Or even worse ... if you miss him and he come back to you ... make sure to give him a good reason for shooting at him!!!
Ha Ha Ha..... must get some target practice in.rofl rofl

 

[podge]

Back to the original question of what type of Shark it is, it looks like a Bronze Whaler to me.
I caught AND RELEASED a few a couple of years ago in Namibia.
I’ll post a picture next week.
All the Sharks we caught went back to the sea with no harm done.
Probably to take revenge on the first spearo they come across!!!!!