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Spearo fatality - Cape Town

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Encouraged by the poor boy's parents not calling for the death of the shark.Valerie Taylor once said "we are just another mammal in the sea".Is every shark attack the work of a rouge or an apex predator doing what it does best.We all understand the risk everytime we enter the water if not then don't get in.Henri Bource's biggest regret about losing his leg to a White shark was that he didn't get to see the shark that bit him.If you can prove beyond any doubt the rouge shark theory then this shark must go,but how do you prove it without killing it.
 
Hiya

A bit more info:

'Monster' shark spotted in False Bay waters

June 06 2005 at 06:28AM

By Matt Morrison

The shark believed to have cut short the life of Durbanville medical student Henri Murray on Saturday, was spotted in False Bay on Sunday, dragging a fishing buoy.

The shark was spotted by fishermen at Roman Rock lighthouse in Simon's Town, and at Kalk Bay harbour. According to their reports, a spear fired by Murray's friend, Piet van Niekerk, remained embedded in the shark, which has also been dragging his spear-gun and buoy along with it.

On Sunday, Murray's car keys were found in a flap pocket of a piece of wetsuit that washed up on Fish Hoek beach, National Sea Rescue Institute (NSRI) spokesperson Craig Lambinon told the Cape Times.


The shark may have been drawn to the divers by their catch
Murray, 22, had been spear-fishing 150 metres offshore of Miller's Point for about an hour with Van Niekerk, 23, when, at 3.45pm, a Great White shark tried to get at him from below. He shouted to Van Niekerk, 10m away, to swim to shore, but his friend instead came to help him.

Murray managed to evade the Great White twice, but on its third attempt, the shark took him, breached and pulled him under. Van Niekerk, a few metres away, fired his speargun at the shark in the hope it would leave Murray, but to no avail.

Van Niekerk immediately swam back to shore, took off his diving gear and ran to a nearby slipway to ask for help.

Emergency services - including NSRI, Metro rescue, and Simon's Town Police and Fire services - were contacted at about 4.15pm, and arrived on the scene within 20 minutes.

The search for Murray was officially called off at 3.30pm on Sunday, though the area will continue to be monitored for the next few days, Lambinon said.

'The shark was a massive thing'
A Skymed helicopter, a private catamaran and police divers searched the six-metre-deep water to find only the top half of a wetsuit, a speargun, flipper, mask, snorkel and parts of a weight belt. The weight belt had been shredded, said Captain David Lehr of the Cape Town diving unit.

In addition, Ian Klopper of the NSRI Skymed crew, one of the first on the scene, said they had found a flotation buoy and severed stringer line, normally attached to the speargun to hook captured fish.

The shark may have been drawn to the divers by their catch, according to one report.

Grant Munro, who saw the incident from a bungalow in the caravan park, said: "The shark was a massive thing, probably five metres long. It lifted him out of the water, and disappeared within seconds."

Murray, of Durbanville, was the third of five children, and was in his fifth year studying medicine at Stellenbosch University.

He loved the outdoors, rock climbing, hiking and went spearfishing once a month.

Van Niekerk, also a fifth-year medical student at Stellenbosch, had been friends with Murray since their first year.

Said Cleeve Robertson, the director of Cape Town Emergency Medical Services: "To witness something like that happening to a close friend of his was traumatic, physically and mentally.

"He was right next to Murray when it happened."

Van Niekerk joined rescue workers on the boat on Sunday to help search for his friend.

Henri's father George said on Sunday: "We all love him deeply. Henri was a model person - well rounded, outgoing - and he had a deep interest in people. The room lit up when he came in."

His dad said it gave them peace to know that Henri had a meaningful life.

"He wanted to better the world, and to bring hope to others. He made an impact on people," he said.

Henri's father expresed his gratitude for the hardworking rescue crews, saying: "The appreciation we have for rescue workers and search crews is enormous."

Murray's brother Wim, 20, said: "Henri was truly loved and an example to all of us.

"He was a remarkable brother - there was a special bond among the five of us.

"We are lucky to have had him for these 22 years."

The attack on Murray was the second in the Western Cape in three months.

Shark attacks have been on the rise over the past few years, according to the Natal Sharks Board.

There have been more than 70 attacks, eight of them fatal, off the Western Cape since 1990.

The last shark attack here was in March, when a British tourist was bitten on the leg by a Great White off Noordhoek.

Murray is survived by his parents, George and Lizette, and his brothers, Andrew, 16, Wim, 20, Giuseppe, 25, and Colyn, 27.

o This article was originally published on page 1 of Cape Times on June 06, 2005
 
Hiya

I'm no shark expert, but what i do know is from experience AND lots os Discovery Channel!!

We as spearo's have a couple of sharks to contend with. The meanest ones are undoubtedly Great Whites, Mako's and Tiger Sharks. Luckily, Great Whites tend to be solitary creatures, unless they've congregated around a seal island or any other known feeding grounds or during mating season. When you go out on dive charters which chum up great whites, they also congregate. How-ever, they ARE solitary creatures that ARE territorial.

Now this shark is supposedly 4-5m in length. It is a HUGE shark and there aren't many of those sized sharks in False Bay. Most of the ones i've encountered are in the 2.5-3m class. So, the possibility of TWO large sharks being in the same area isn't that great.

A peice of the spearo's wetsuit was found, washed-up, at Fish hoek beach, which is about 7km's away from the attack. Fish Hoek beach is the exact same place a female swimmer was taken by a large Great White a couple of months ago. The shark was also SEEN, with spear and float passing THAT area (Roman Rock). About a year ago, a large great white also attacked a guy in a kayak, very close to Fish Hoek. The shark bit the kayak, but luckily the man made it back to shore un-hurt.

Soooo, what i'm getting at is: should ALL watersport activities be stopped until this ONE shark, who is easily identifiable at the moment, simply move off or die of old age?? That would mean, ALL surfers, kite-boarders, kayaker, paddleskiers, boogie boarders, wind surfers, recreational swimmers, scuba divers, snorklers, spearo's, holiday makers should stay OUT OF THE WATER??? I reckon we should all just sit back and let that great white snack on a couple more people!!! Hey, he's just doing what he does!!!!

Regards

AN ENDANGERED MILES (well, there is ONLY ONE of me!!!!!!)
 
Fair point Miles i don't have to contend with the danger like you guy's i just remember the bad old days after Jaw's and all the slaughter that followed.Just be safe and enjoy the sport we all love.
 
I don't think we will ever see a repeat of the type of activity that came after Jaws.
Those days are gone, the world has changed and people are generally more responsible and thank goodness for that.
However I still think my original post was correct, and that shark should be killed while it's still towing he evidence.
 
Very sad to hear.. Condolences to all that knew him and may he be at peace. It is a risk we all take when entering into the ocean but it still hits home when a tragedy like this happens. Our thoughts need to be with the surviving spearo as he no doubt must be very traumatised.
 
Very sad to hear about this happening.
But its a risk we all take and will still take because we all love the Ocean.
I think the Shark should be killed, i would say it would be easly reconisable with the spear in its side so take it out.
Whats one shark ( or even 10 ) when someone elses child/husband/wife/mum
gets taken.
Its O.K to say we are in their enviorment and if it had just mauled the diver and released it then O.K let it live, but it didnt and it is a Rouge shark so it should be killed before we have another life lost and another greiving family.
Remember we as Spearos know and accept the risk, but the little kidd swimming at the beach dosent.

Crusty
 
To all who live in South Africa well. . . Keep that thing on your side of the world no matter what you do!!! We don't have any room for it around here! I say kill it but MILES if you want to swim with that sucker go for it we need some of you guys in SA to feed it for a while so that it doesn't decide to move to California.

KEEP CHUMMING BOYS!!!
 
I know a lot of people will not agree with what I am about to say but, man cannot play God with the ocean ie. kill some species and let others live as it unbalances nature.

Great White Sharks are now protected, here anyway, but we still take thousands of tonnes of fish out of the ocean with huge fishing nets.

So we say the sharks can live, but we are taking away its food.
Of course the bastards are going to get hungry, and I believe that is the reason for more frequent shark attacks.

Sharks should be taken in proportion to the amount of fish caught by setting a quota.

To me it seems stupid to protect a shark that is aggressive and probably needs more food to eat, to survive than any other shark.

There are plenty of other breeds of shark in the ocean to do the cleaning up jobs that sharks do and if the Great White Shark became extinct, I for one wouldn't really miss it.
 
Whatever happens to that shark will be decided by the authorities in Cape Town. Just you take care Miles, I know this wont stop you going in the water, your to much like me.
Stay safe mate :)
 
How does one go about killing a shark anyway? This is probably something I should know but I just had these immages of guys with giant spearguns trying to hunt one down, or like dropping depth charges on it or something.....

As for whether or not it should be killed while I could definetly side with the shark (I mean hey spearos kill and eat fish, sharks have to kill and eat something..) it just so happens that I am a human and as great as my immagination might be the reality of life is that anything that is a threat or potential threat to humans should be destroyed by humans. Same goes for sharks just im not one.

My condolences to the family and friends. I like how all the articles tell us that seeing his friend killed by a shark was a traumatic experience. In case we were wondering.

Regards,
AKDiverDude
 
AkDiverDude said:
How does one go about killing a shark anyway? This is probably something I should know but I just had these immages of guys with giant spearguns trying to hunt one down, or like dropping depth charges on it or something.....

I'm not an expert or anything, but from what i have learned and heard, here in Hawaii researchers catch tiger sharks by leaving baits out overnight attached to a float or buoy. They check the baits in the mornings, record the sharks information they require (i suppose sex, length, weight, girth, etc,) tag the sharks and set them free. The sharks are not harmed during this process. Tigers like everyone knows, can grow to be very large sizes here - around 18 feet (so 3-4 meters or so?), but I'm sure they are not as large as the GW. If the float is still attached to the sharks, they could try using this method to capture the "rogue" shark and release the rest. Just a thought.

One other thing, as sad as this is, it is fortunate that his friend was there to identify the victim quickly and avoid causing his family even more grief. I encourage all divers to carry some sort of identification on themselves just in case the worst happens...you don't have to subject your family to come and identify you in person.
Dive Safe Spearos
 
Well when they set the lines with bouys, If they make the line to the hook too short for the shark to swim in large circles then it will inevitably suffocate. Because sharks have to be swimming in order to breathe. That is one way that they do it. The other is nets. There are a lot of beaches around the country that have special shark nets off shore a little ways to try to help keep the sharks out. But what people don't know is most of the sharks caught in the nets are on the INSIDE (beach side) instead of the off shore side. Meaning that they really may not do a whole lot but people think that they do. But on the same token when they put the nets out it always seems that the reported shark attacks in a particular area goes down.

Just what I know. . . but that would be one hell of a shark to catch on hook and line. Maybe since they have a marker on the shark (speargun with float) they could use some sort of tactic like in Jaws except that it would probably work this time around.
 
I dunno how you cape towners spear! I'd be looking everywhichway but in the direction of the fish in front of the gun. I'll stick to my U.S. Atlantic variety of nibblers, thanks. Everybody be safe out there!
 
Sadly i agree that its time for this shark to go. Whilst we would love the administrators to get their sh.t together and sort it out with this kind of thing there's too much p.c stuff going around. nuff said.
There have been way too many fatalities in the cape the last 2 years; reported and unreported .
the sea is a big place and whilst it is "their environment" recreationally we only use a very small % of it and we should do what we need to to make it safer. for those warm fuzzies out there .. catch a reality check!
safe diving.
 
I say kill the shark, it must have for at least 200$ worth of fins!
 
This is what 30-06 powerheads were made for, I can't imagine a human allowing a GW to devour a 22 year young man, someone's son-and say let the shark go, esp. with a marker like a speargun and buoy attached to him; I am also thinking possibly if the partner was carrying a ph he might have been able to torpedo the GW, though I must also say he proved himself to be a GREAT HUNTER by staying in the water and getting the shot, YOU ARE THE MAN, and you did your partner proud and stood by him all the way, sleep easy~ zeN
 
zeN said:
This is what 30-06 powerheads were made for, I can't imagine a human allowing a GW to devour a 22 year young man, someone's son-and say let the shark go, esp. with a marker like a speargun and buoy attached to him; I am also thinking possibly if the partner was carrying a ph he might have been able to torpedo the GW, though I must also say he proved himself to be a GREAT HUNTER by staying in the water and getting the shot, YOU ARE THE MAN, and you did your partner proud and stood by him all the way, sleep easy~ zeN
very brave friend my deepest condolence.
 
What was the eventual outcome of this? I take it the shark was allowed to go in peace as nothing has been said.
 
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