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Support the completion of The Greater meaning of Water
- Thread starter CEngelbrecht
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Thread Status: Hello
, There was no answer in this thread for more than 90 days.
It can take a long time to get an up-to-date response or contact with relevant users.
It can take a long time to get an up-to-date response or contact with relevant users.
Nick names only, all right.
And supporters who are not DB users? (I have advertised this fund raise to I don't know how many people already. Feel free to copycat me on that one, by the way.)
And supporters who are not DB users? (I have advertised this fund raise to I don't know how many people already. Feel free to copycat me on that one, by the way.)
List non DB users as anonymous until you get permission from them to have their real name up on an online forum. Maybe just put "Anonymous: 3" for the number of people who have donated but wish to remain anonymous (including DB users). If you still want to list how much they donated, then just list the total that all anon. users have donated.
Obviously listing business/corporate donations are good, maybe double check with Papa Smurf about listing them with a link to their site to make sure he is OK with it.
Obviously listing business/corporate donations are good, maybe double check with Papa Smurf about listing them with a link to their site to make sure he is OK with it.
No word from Sky? Guess this project is a dead duck? Maybe I should make it available for download but how does one do that with that size file? (this prospect might catch Sky's attention!)
Sky said he'd post in here, it was a few days ago. He might be busy, I don't know.
About the file, we're talking about the precut, right? How big a file are we talking about, in the gigs? I might be able to find a server somewhere.
About the file, we're talking about the precut, right? How big a file are we talking about, in the gigs? I might be able to find a server somewhere.
I am very hesitant to release something that isn't mine to the whole world, so lets just give Sky a few more days to get back to us. If nothing happens soon then I would love people to have the opportunity to see what is a great film.
Hi Everyone,
I want to express my deepest gratitude for this fund raising thread.
An update on the project: We are going to attempt to finish the film during July and August. We currently do not have enough funds to get past the first step of the post-production process (see below), but Justin Williford (the lead actor) is flying up here (Seattle) tomorrow and we are going to take a chance and at least get the ball rolling.
Once Justin gets here, we will have to take it day by day. With each segment of any further funds that are raised, we will be able to take another step of the post-production process. I have worked out deals with two sound studios that are being very supportive and giving us indy rates.
Specifically these are:
1. Recording voiceovers from the lead actor ($1k)
2. Editing the final scenes and adjusting for the voice over ($2k)
3. Recording foley sound effects in a studio ($1k)
4. Producing digital sound effects to enhance the diving/ocean ($1k)
5. Fine cutting the sound/visual edits ($1.5k)
6. Mixing and mastering the sound tracks ($2.5k)
7. Final color correction and film looks for the HD footage ($2k)
8. Output and encoding for DVD, HD-DVD, and BlueRay ($2.5k)
9. Duplication and packaging ($1.5k upwards)
10. Setting up CC billing page on website ($200)
11. SHIP DVD's and fulfill orders! ($400 upwards)
12. Submit to festivals ($2k)
General Equipment/Travel/Living for post ($8k)
If we work together, I should be able to send out DVD's in a few months!
Fingers crossed,
-Sky Christopherson
I want to express my deepest gratitude for this fund raising thread.
An update on the project: We are going to attempt to finish the film during July and August. We currently do not have enough funds to get past the first step of the post-production process (see below), but Justin Williford (the lead actor) is flying up here (Seattle) tomorrow and we are going to take a chance and at least get the ball rolling.
Once Justin gets here, we will have to take it day by day. With each segment of any further funds that are raised, we will be able to take another step of the post-production process. I have worked out deals with two sound studios that are being very supportive and giving us indy rates.
Specifically these are:
1. Recording voiceovers from the lead actor ($1k)
2. Editing the final scenes and adjusting for the voice over ($2k)
3. Recording foley sound effects in a studio ($1k)
4. Producing digital sound effects to enhance the diving/ocean ($1k)
5. Fine cutting the sound/visual edits ($1.5k)
6. Mixing and mastering the sound tracks ($2.5k)
7. Final color correction and film looks for the HD footage ($2k)
8. Output and encoding for DVD, HD-DVD, and BlueRay ($2.5k)
9. Duplication and packaging ($1.5k upwards)
10. Setting up CC billing page on website ($200)
11. SHIP DVD's and fulfill orders! ($400 upwards)
12. Submit to festivals ($2k)
General Equipment/Travel/Living for post ($8k)
If we work together, I should be able to send out DVD's in a few months!
Fingers crossed,
-Sky Christopherson
Direct links to video footage:
Greater Meaning of Water teaser trailer (Quicktime)
Greater Meaning of Water interview clip (Quicktime)
Greater Meaning of Water teaser trailer (Quicktime)
Greater Meaning of Water interview clip (Quicktime)
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Ok, looking at Sky's detailed budget leaves a target of $25.6k. That suddenly looks much better than $36k.
I have considered that maybe Sky (or one of his associates) should assume the PayPal collection in stead of me. This is partly to avoid paying a 4.5% PayPal fee twice on donations, but also to let the donations reach Sky and Amorgen Pics directly. I also fear that some are holding back donations because of the 'who the heck is this Engelbrecht fella?' factor.
My one concern is if Sky et al are ready to take that extra work. Not that I spend hours a day doing this (so far I've only written an Excel file), but I'm sure Sky is a busy man. Also, it'd be good for DB users and the momentum of this raise to keep seeing the progress posted here, and I don't know if Sky would be up to posting that on a regular basis.
I have considered that maybe Sky (or one of his associates) should assume the PayPal collection in stead of me. This is partly to avoid paying a 4.5% PayPal fee twice on donations, but also to let the donations reach Sky and Amorgen Pics directly. I also fear that some are holding back donations because of the 'who the heck is this Engelbrecht fella?' factor.
My one concern is if Sky et al are ready to take that extra work. Not that I spend hours a day doing this (so far I've only written an Excel file), but I'm sure Sky is a busy man. Also, it'd be good for DB users and the momentum of this raise to keep seeing the progress posted here, and I don't know if Sky would be up to posting that on a regular basis.
Hey guys,
My name is Justin Williford, I am the lead actor in "The Greater Meaning of Water", and I wanted to tell you how much all of your contributions mean to Sky and I.
I just flew to Seattle on the 2nd of July and have been working here with Sky over the last couple of days planning the work we are going to be getting done this month. We will be writting out a plan for the month and i will be posting daily on this thread to let you all know what we have completed and what is next in the process over the next month.
What Sky and I are trying to accomplish while I am here in Seattle for the month is as follows:
-Setting up a small sound room to do scratch recordings of the Voice Over work.
-laying the Scratch tracks down on the film and fine cutting the film to make the voice over work fit correctly.
-Add some existing footage to the film to add exposition to the film we found was missing after responses from test screenings.
Once I got here to Seattle I purchaced the rest of the monitoring and sound equiptment we need to do accurate sound and foley recordings so we should be able to set up the editor and sound booth today.
As Far as Sky and I taking over the donation pool, we want to speak more directly with Christian before we decide and make sure we are going to have the time to take on such a task. I am sure we will, we just need to work out the details. Reguardless, we will be in contact with Christian.
Just to add some hilarity to the adventure, I decided to go play some pickup basketball inthe first day I got to Seattle because the weather was so nice and not 3 plays into the game recieved the worst black eye I have ever had in my life. I was actually concerned for my vision for the first few minutes after it happend as my right eye was seeing in a sort of yellow hue.
Anyhow, Just wanted to share the story and a pic to let you know Sky and I are not letting anything stop the creative process this month.
Thanks so much everybody for your contributions!!!
please mail me or post here if you have any questions.
JFW
My name is Justin Williford, I am the lead actor in "The Greater Meaning of Water", and I wanted to tell you how much all of your contributions mean to Sky and I.
I just flew to Seattle on the 2nd of July and have been working here with Sky over the last couple of days planning the work we are going to be getting done this month. We will be writting out a plan for the month and i will be posting daily on this thread to let you all know what we have completed and what is next in the process over the next month.
What Sky and I are trying to accomplish while I am here in Seattle for the month is as follows:
-Setting up a small sound room to do scratch recordings of the Voice Over work.
-laying the Scratch tracks down on the film and fine cutting the film to make the voice over work fit correctly.
-Add some existing footage to the film to add exposition to the film we found was missing after responses from test screenings.
Once I got here to Seattle I purchaced the rest of the monitoring and sound equiptment we need to do accurate sound and foley recordings so we should be able to set up the editor and sound booth today.
As Far as Sky and I taking over the donation pool, we want to speak more directly with Christian before we decide and make sure we are going to have the time to take on such a task. I am sure we will, we just need to work out the details. Reguardless, we will be in contact with Christian.
Just to add some hilarity to the adventure, I decided to go play some pickup basketball inthe first day I got to Seattle because the weather was so nice and not 3 plays into the game recieved the worst black eye I have ever had in my life. I was actually concerned for my vision for the first few minutes after it happend as my right eye was seeing in a sort of yellow hue.
Anyhow, Just wanted to share the story and a pic to let you know Sky and I are not letting anything stop the creative process this month.
Thanks so much everybody for your contributions!!!
please mail me or post here if you have any questions.
JFW
Great to see you here on Deeperblue Justin. Well done on what I have seen on the movie so far. Your voice overs will add so much to the overall feeling of the film. I see can see the faces of the viewers now- walking out of the theatre with a feeling of serenity and a big smile on their face.
B.T.W - I love that scene with you in the training centre pool, people swimming above you, and you just playing around blowing bubbles and finning around. It makes me want to swim all day!
Good luck, and no more fighting with the producer over creative differences:ko :ko :ko :ko :ko :ko
B.T.W - I love that scene with you in the training centre pool, people swimming above you, and you just playing around blowing bubbles and finning around. It makes me want to swim all day!
Good luck, and no more fighting with the producer over creative differences:ko :ko :ko :ko :ko :ko
Hey Shouttastic,
Thanks for the props onthe film. We are exited to ad the voiceover to the film as well. We are hoping it will help explain some of the current plot holes and help internalize the characters struggle while making his story more understandable to the nonfreediver.
We are currently looking at setting up a sponsorship link on the GMW website but for the time being we will just be making Chris the goto guy for donations.
I was only a freediver for the durration of the film, but I cannot shake the feeling I get when I look at a deep chasm of clear blue water. I am drawn to it. It never leaves you.
Thanks for the props onthe film. We are exited to ad the voiceover to the film as well. We are hoping it will help explain some of the current plot holes and help internalize the characters struggle while making his story more understandable to the nonfreediver.
We are currently looking at setting up a sponsorship link on the GMW website but for the time being we will just be making Chris the goto guy for donations.
I was only a freediver for the durration of the film, but I cannot shake the feeling I get when I look at a deep chasm of clear blue water. I am drawn to it. It never leaves you.
Hey All,
Just wanted to give another update on the current post production of GMW.
Sky and I spent all of last night until 3am going over the film on a scene by scene basis and breaking down what about the film needs reworking and what needs to be added. We spent all day today getting the editing machine back up to scratch, we will have to reinstall the OS on his machine tomorrow as we are getting the latest version of Pro Studio 2 installed which will allow us to edit all of the HDV footage in a native fromat. (meaning no rendering times) Faster working for us, but today he and I have been spending all day looking through the 36+hours of footage, (yes theres that much) finding the inserts and footage we want to work in to really help explain the esoteric parts of freediving to those who have not experienced flow in its full splendor.
I will give another update tomorrow on our progress after all the new software is loaded.
Sky and I are spending every other day in the swimming pool as well, really trying to get our minds back into that state, we think it will help our timing with the film as there is a dynamic reached on many levels when you are in that state of mind.
I hope everyone is spending as much time in the water as is possible.
JFW out
Just wanted to give another update on the current post production of GMW.
Sky and I spent all of last night until 3am going over the film on a scene by scene basis and breaking down what about the film needs reworking and what needs to be added. We spent all day today getting the editing machine back up to scratch, we will have to reinstall the OS on his machine tomorrow as we are getting the latest version of Pro Studio 2 installed which will allow us to edit all of the HDV footage in a native fromat. (meaning no rendering times) Faster working for us, but today he and I have been spending all day looking through the 36+hours of footage, (yes theres that much) finding the inserts and footage we want to work in to really help explain the esoteric parts of freediving to those who have not experienced flow in its full splendor.
I will give another update tomorrow on our progress after all the new software is loaded.
Sky and I are spending every other day in the swimming pool as well, really trying to get our minds back into that state, we think it will help our timing with the film as there is a dynamic reached on many levels when you are in that state of mind.
I hope everyone is spending as much time in the water as is possible.
JFW out
hey great progress guys.
Spending some time in the water will I'm sure aid in the creative process. Good thinking.
Keep up the good work, and thanks heaps for your updates Justin.
Spending some time in the water will I'm sure aid in the creative process. Good thinking.
Keep up the good work, and thanks heaps for your updates Justin.
Wanted to continue the updates for our daily progress on the GMW project.
Sky and I spent all day trying to track down the latest version of the editiing software we need, but we will have to wait till monday to get it afterall. Today he and I scanned more footage and made a handwritten list and bin range numbers for all the footage we would like to include or amend in the new version of the film. But the most important thing I got done today was the microphone set up. I purchase and Okatava mic as they are the best for foley and Voice over, the offer deep rich sound and pick up subtle nuances in sounds and voices. I actually spent the money on this bad boy and he and I split the cost of the cables, stand, and headphones. I made a simple yet efficient pop filter out of a coat wire, old panty hose, and an old light clamp.
The pop filter will keep the wind from the voice actor (me) from hitting the diaphram of the mic and splashing or hissing out the sounds. Very macguyver, but it works. He and I are reloading his editor and getting ready to watch and catalog the rest of the footage tonight. I will have another update for you all tomorrow.
Sky and I spent all day trying to track down the latest version of the editiing software we need, but we will have to wait till monday to get it afterall. Today he and I scanned more footage and made a handwritten list and bin range numbers for all the footage we would like to include or amend in the new version of the film. But the most important thing I got done today was the microphone set up. I purchase and Okatava mic as they are the best for foley and Voice over, the offer deep rich sound and pick up subtle nuances in sounds and voices. I actually spent the money on this bad boy and he and I split the cost of the cables, stand, and headphones. I made a simple yet efficient pop filter out of a coat wire, old panty hose, and an old light clamp.
The pop filter will keep the wind from the voice actor (me) from hitting the diaphram of the mic and splashing or hissing out the sounds. Very macguyver, but it works. He and I are reloading his editor and getting ready to watch and catalog the rest of the footage tonight. I will have another update for you all tomorrow.
Great work Justin and Sky.
Justin you have a great timbre to your voice. I can't explain it's particular qualities but you couldn't have found a better voice for this project from anywhere.
How is the fundraising going? (Chris?)
Justin you have a great timbre to your voice. I can't explain it's particular qualities but you couldn't have found a better voice for this project from anywhere.
How is the fundraising going? (Chris?)
We have not spoken to Chris yet on this as we are extremely busy trying to get our hardware up and running. As of thismorining, we reinstalled our OS, but our main drive with 280gb of video on it is corrupt and the drive will not mount so we have to get a deck and recapture about 20 hours of footage, but we cannot recapture till we have the drive and new software so we are scrambling today to get this all taken care of.
As far as the fundraising, we trust Chris and for now we are going to set up our website to link to the thread on deeper blue or to Chirs' donation page. We will inform you all when the link is active.
Hopefully this hardware issue will only set us back a day or two, we are crossing our fingers.
As far as the fundraising, we trust Chris and for now we are going to set up our website to link to the thread on deeper blue or to Chirs' donation page. We will inform you all when the link is active.
Hopefully this hardware issue will only set us back a day or two, we are crossing our fingers.
Hey All,
Just wanted to give a quick update on the film.
After a gutwrenching day of worry, we discoverd that we could infact rebuilt the drive with the old souce material. The original hard drive was corrupted, but after running around town all day, finding a new drive, renting a HDV deck, reinstalling the new FCP 6 software, and formatting the new hard drive, we are sooooo pleased to see that FCP is loading all of the footage into the old Timeline we created so we can access it. The downside is that we have to recapture 25 hours of tapes and turn the deck back in before we get a late fee. So needless to say, Sky and I will take turns tonight, waking up and switching the tapes and recapturing. This hardware issue put us about 2 days behind schedule, but nothing we cannot make up with a few extra midnight oil burns. I am cataloging footage and making an edit decision list as we watch the footage and capture it. This will give us a good look at what we want to start changing, so we can hit the ground running as soon as the batch captures are finished.
I hope you all are well. Keep the faith!
(fingers crossed)
JFW
Just wanted to give a quick update on the film.
After a gutwrenching day of worry, we discoverd that we could infact rebuilt the drive with the old souce material. The original hard drive was corrupted, but after running around town all day, finding a new drive, renting a HDV deck, reinstalling the new FCP 6 software, and formatting the new hard drive, we are sooooo pleased to see that FCP is loading all of the footage into the old Timeline we created so we can access it. The downside is that we have to recapture 25 hours of tapes and turn the deck back in before we get a late fee. So needless to say, Sky and I will take turns tonight, waking up and switching the tapes and recapturing. This hardware issue put us about 2 days behind schedule, but nothing we cannot make up with a few extra midnight oil burns. I am cataloging footage and making an edit decision list as we watch the footage and capture it. This will give us a good look at what we want to start changing, so we can hit the ground running as soon as the batch captures are finished.
I hope you all are well. Keep the faith!
(fingers crossed)
JFW