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World Series Freediving competition series announced

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Wal, I'm pretty sure the no packing rule will stay no matter how much you object to it. Packing was excluded from the SSI education system, so it would be hypocritical of them to allow it in their competitions.

The way I see it you can either opt not to compete in WSF at all or you can start training without packing and compete in WSF when you are comfortable with it. If you are keen to win the prize money then do the latter. If you are worried about keeping your 'position' as the top freediver in Oz, then I don't think you need to worry too much. The WSF performances will be weaker than your AIDA ones. Get a publicist or PR person and let the public know.
 
There is still DNF and CNF at WSF as far as I can see:
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That's not the case for the first comp. Without packing, those that use it are indeed "handicapped", in terms of being able to perform to the the best of their abilities.
 
Asking to be permitted to pack in a competition where others do not pack is the same as if you asked that you can use roller blades in a marathon race. Of course you would perform better with roller blades, but the others would too if they did. However others do not want to use roller blades in a marathon race, and the rules do not permit it. Hence you can either accept measuring your performance with others without the skates, or just attend roller skates competitions instead.
 
World series cricket- wsc was started in the 70s and revolutionised the sport if cricket with one day games and was started by Kerry Packer..
World series freediving - was started in 2012 and aims to revolutionise freediving but you can't PACK. rofl
 
Competitions are an intricate development of the ancestral game: "who's got the biggest one?".
What it gives us is basically an official ruler, that we can use to measure the object of the competition. And then we can view results publicly, get praised, appear in newspapers ("journalist: how did you get it so long? athlete: It was really hard"), train to get longer, etc.
Until now, rulers were measuring in centimeters.
WSF is basically talking about measuring in inches.

My modest contribution to this debate, which is turning a bit farcical
 
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Sorry but I don't get your comparison. Do you realise centimetres are about 2/5th of an inch?
 
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Sorry but I don't get your comparison. Do you realise centimetres are about 2/5th of an inch?
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What Tanguy meant is that the egos suddenly shrink with the rule change, which makes happy those who always measeured in inches, but unhappy those who use to measure in centimeters.
 
Speaking of egos, I had an unfortunate online run-in tonight with Mike. In order not to colour anything my way, I will provide only what occurred and no commentary.

Below is a private message thread initiated by Mike after I posted the attached on the WSF wall in response to one of their claims. My comments were deleted and I wasn't fast enough to save my second. It's highlighted in Mike's reply though.







Mike,
If you feel that I have misrepresented you in any way in the above exchange, please let me know publically or privately and I will correct it. I despise things being done in the dark and value honesty and transparency.
 

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Chrismar, would you say an organization should be considered 'worldwide' when it has representation (or had at some stage) in 4 S.American, 2 African and 6 Asian countries?

If you're going to clean up the blatantly untrue marketing claims in freediving, then you are going to have many an unhappy 'champion' or 'record-holder' freediver posting on your Facebook wall.
 
Chris, you should just come to VB2012 instead. It will be the biggest freediving event in the history of the Universe. All the best freedivers who have ever lived will be there.

P.S. no one better repudiate these claims, or I'll make the internet crash!
(smile).
 
Tanguy Crusson is best friends with the very person who is writing the rules for WSF.
 
Chris I share your desire for consistent truthfulness.

At the same time I comprehend marketing and pr talk, employing sophist techniques to gather customers.

One can jump high and low upon these things, fact is most people are moved and guided by people they feel are authorities. People want fantasy more then reality.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTfBgJdyyBM]Starsuckers 1 of 2 [2010] (46:33) - YouTube[/ame]

At the same time I think Mike is an excellent salesman, doing an outstanding job selling breath-hold diving to a wide audience.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuVgrY4FjY0]FreeDive.mov - YouTube[/ame]
 
From what chris marshall has posted there it seems mike wells is a total tool with zero integrity!!! How can anyone not see this???

The fact is Walter steyn owns mike in all performances and has earned his respect as australias best over a long time, no point in trying to weasel around this fact which it seems to me is what mike is trying to achieve.
 
You are not welcome to post your dispirited gripes on the wall...It is completely unsporting to all other entrants and also very unprofessional
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And the award for hypocrite of the year goes to.....
 
I believe that Wal can stay assured that his performances are known and appreciated, and nothing will change even if someone else claims a new inferior national record. First of all the values should be lower (and if not then the higher performance desires the full respect), and then it is not the same category.

It reminds me the situation in Austria. There are some fine freedivers, among others also certain Herbert Nitsch and certain Christian Redl. Herbert, one of the biggest freedivers ever, holds some 30 world records (sanctioned by AIDA). Christian Redl, just a bit better average freediver, holds perhaps 50 freediving world records (sanctioned by Guinness, or just self-appointed) - all of them are more or less just fun records, or records in some specific situations, but they attract a lot of media attention. Possibly even more than the records of Herbert. Still, I never heard Herbert complaing about that, or accusing Christian that he steals his glory.

Of course, the false claims on the website of WSF are entirely something different, and they should go away in the best interest of WSF, because besides putting the entire business into a really strange light and damaging them in the community, they may risk some legal actions. I believe that current record holders, AIDA, or CMAS could succesfully challenge them in the court, but I hope it won't be needed to go that far.
 
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I agree, Tanguy, let's stop using the sophist technique of ad hominum.Leave the persons in peace. Just point out the behaviour we disapprove of. We can only ask them to change. The more force applied, the more resistance.
 
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