Yoga, scientific research and stopping the heart

[Kars]

I discoverd many new things in life through freediving. I learned to feel, learned about intuition, learn to trust intuition fully. I've learned to be as hounoust and senciere as I can be. This get's rewarded in many great ways. I meet the right people the right time, gain new insights, get the right offers of strangers. In short someone(s) is takeing care of me up there. The more I come to know the I realise is to learn. I feel I'm here to learn. There is not a thing a bad knowledge, only the aplication of it can be good or bad. The more one get's to know, the more responsibility one has.
I'm happy to share the experiences and knowledge and views I've obtained. I've become aware that it's a process, and views change. But some things don't seem to change, love and hate. I've come to understand that knowledge and understanding breeds, fuels love. Hate is fueled by fear. Fear is a product of the mind, and is fueled by not knowing, not understanding.

Since I've come to understand man a bit I don't get angry anymore, and human invoced fear has gone out of the window.

Yoga in my perception helps to clean and nurish our body, the vehicle we're here to use for experiencing practicing and learning. Cleaning ones body makes your brain also more clean, and that allows for better listening to the out as well as the inside. God speaks to everyone, but due to the poisening of our bodies, overloading our senses, overloading our minds with useless tasks and nonexisting problems, we cannot hear God. This knowlegde is hidden from mankind by many religeous groups, who like to have the knowledge monopoly in order to control groups and indevituals.

Since God speaks to everyone, I'm sure even the most advocate of reason, mind = everything there is, will encounter Gods' signs sooner or later. But one cannot be forced, as I've discovered. The best approach for me is listen to their stories, and share ones view in order to shift the listeners thought paradigm. There is so much more to learn, to discover, it would be a pitty to cancel out knowledge, for knowlegde leads tu understanding which opens pathways to love.

Be not afraid and try some yoga, clean your body of toxines, and experience the difference. Share knowlegde and free humanity.

I would love to read about DBmembers discoveries and experiences with Yoga and freediving!

Thanks, Love, Peace and Water!

Kars van Kouwen.
www.freeapnea.nl

 

[neshamah]

Wow ....to many way of thinking in this forum ?

I think would need the help of the jews freedivers from this forum??

where they are ???

maybe they tell us about their "INCOMPARABLE "history and about his GOD?? and about miracle???
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This is a writing I posted in this forum a long go:

When we relate free diving with the spiritual... we enter the spiritual world, an obscure path for some but clear for others - where ideas dominate -

. It is here where we have to understand which are the foundations of each belief and if it works or not. My writing has not been with the purpose of making you feel bad on the contrary is a way for you to analyze carefully all things. I know and I have seen your consistency and hunger for the spiritual things -


let's mediate on something friends - Only God will only do the greatest signs, two types of water can't come from the same fountain (sweet and bitter) - God himself doesn't allow people to compare his mighty and marvelous works that He can only do and why? so that we can distinguish what is the truthful religion and in whom we can really belief - a fake ring's color will not last from the moment it is sunk in the water, because it would lose its color. The same with so many religions, at the beginning they look good but they are not and there are many examples that demonstrates that. I don't blame men for the deception, on the contrary they were created with a soul that longs to find its Creator. The one to be blamed is that fallen angel that from the beginning of the creation rebelled against God and has tried to deceive our focus from the One who we are truly supposed to be looking at "Our God"

 

[neshamah]

Hey Daniel,

Write something beautiful about freediving and how it enhances your spirituality. Maybe tell us how you feel about creation and the diversity of feelings you experience during a dive, especially if that dive tests your ability and may end your life.
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Hi ...Haydn

wow that's wonderfull... You are testyfing for me felow.is like it we are in the same mind

.. There is not word how to explain how do have feel now having God and with everything I can do...


.I have made some writing and poems about it- that have to translate to Ingles -
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Is it cheating to pray for help during a competition?
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-No - That's great- but we have to pray with undertanding!
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Does your faith affect your ability to dive? .
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Of course faith affect everything we can do -but also the practice- they walks togheter- faith without deed is dead- faith is a act -we walk by faith!
faith is like a la ( salsa en la comida- you prepare the meal and them you put that sauce- and you will see that it will test better

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Do you feel as close to God at 50 meters as you do during your personal prayers?
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Yes- I feel close to God when at 50 meters or when I im at 0 metros or when I finished my freediving seccion that day and go home-
- "he promised to be we as always"-" who we separate us from his love"
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How do you feel about diving on the Sabbath?Can you dive as deep or is there something missing during those dives?

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Well friend asking me that Im not sure if you are jews ?and I respect and understand that part - but for me there is not problem with diving on sabbath or sunday or any other day- Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath HE IS -our rest - so I can rest in his presence the 7 day a weeks-


Thank you

Daniel.

 

[Kars]

Daniel, thanks for your explanation.

Maybe you can resonate to this view?
There are many ways of getting to know God. Some people discover God having a near death experience, others through a very blessing moment, etc.
What do you think about this one?

Would you mind if someone has walked a different path?

Comming back to topic;

How does freediving change your life?

What interesting things have you learned though freediving?

Ciao,

Kars

 

[neshamah]

Although Daniel is suggesting one area to the exclusion of all others. His contributions are valid and valuable if they impact on our sport and particularly so if they could be conveyed with more relevance. Science isnt the only benchmark used to offer proof or to validate good
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Felow what Im talking here is nothing new-- we are debating here about powers and miracles in one way or another and things that can help to improve our ability for freediving or give us the peace we need to do things

but we have to be clear and make the differnet betwen 2 power or the existing of many power- exiting only ON TRUHT POWER AND ONE GOD-

I also beleive 100 % in Science after God- and we can not affilate Science with religion- Science is like a shield that God have given us! as it is the money-

Saludos

Hey -I thing Im doing better we my ingles ?

 

[Erik]

I've had a few complaints about this thread: 1: please keep it civil, and 2: with apologies to non-English-first-language-speakers, keep it in English. Not everyone speaks Spanish. Daniel, consider translating at http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and then posting the text.
We might consider starting a new thread in the Beach Bar to continue this conversation?
Peace,
Erik Y.

 

[neshamah]

Maybe you can resonate to this view?
There are many ways of getting to know God. Some people discover God having a near death experience, others through a very blessing moment, etc.
What do you think about this one?
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Well friend- I would say that the most interested to know us is God-instead of man to know God- that is why at the near death experience God in his Grace speak to us to our heart or send a Angel who knows

- although we where created with a soul- and our soul always look for the spiritual thing sometime man do not look for it ..

God is a God of blessing of grace - how many time He has bleseed us- and we don understand from where that blessing has come- and we give thanks to other things or worship other things instead of God-

As my friend - that came from cuba and cross the ocean In a ( balsa)
and whe I talk to him in usa he says that an old lady (santera) from cuba told him he will cross the ocean without problem-- and I had to say to my friend - forget about what that lady said to you- IT WAS GOD WHO HELPED YOU AND KEEP YOU in those time in the mid of the ocean- that is why you are alive

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There are many ways of getting to know God
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That's is a street frase- maybe taking from the romans -that there is many way of gettign one- But I can tell you that there is only ONE- JESUS he say clearly -IM THE WAY - For example in my house in cuba I only had ONE door to enter my house

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Would you mind if someone has walked a different path?
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Yes I would mind- I don' like to see people walking in differnet path and wrong past and oscure path that lead them to confusion -when we talk about the matter of religion or salvation we have to be very clear in this- that there is only ONE PATH THAT LEAD OF TO HEAVEN OR ETERNAL LIFE -
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How does freediving change your life?
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Well freediving hasn't change me-But when I got to know JESUS It change many things - including freediving-

they way I see freediving- I enjoy the most this sport- the ocean- But I know that there is a porpuse for those that believe and that we have to Glorify God with our talente - and what better than using freediving as a tool to tesfity and share my Faith- as Peter the fisher did in the bible - God made him a fiisher of man !

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What interesting things have you learned though freediving?
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Wow -freediving for me is more like a sport- is to comtemplate the Creation Itself- I descovered trough the bible the truth meaning of breathing - soul - spirit mind and heart and all this - and the relation all this have with our Creator- that's why Im pick up this nick NESHAMAH- A Hebreo name with a great meaning

The first chapter of Genesis in the bible make clear everyting: Man creation - oceans- fishes ect ect

Saludos Kars

 

[neshamah]

Daniel, consider translating at
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Yes - Im in the school now- I just need to remember how to combine words and verbs - thanks - it will take some time- the most I practice with you the best- remember - I have been out of this ingles speaking freediving forum for a while-but the good things I have is that im not scare to write in my poor ingles
I also give thank to you for helping me to improve my writing with all this conversation- but I know that in one way or another you understand me writing

bye

 

[Erik]

there is only ONE PATH THAT LEAD OF TO HEAVEN OR ETERNAL LIFE -
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Peace,
Erik Y.