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2014 lunocet

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Well the fin can be rotated to suit marginatus, the difficulty of connecting to the lunocet has just recently been mentioned about how hard it is in the swirling ocean to put on, it might be dearer but I wouldn't think by much, power transfer would only be down if at all by the same amount as what would be the difference between 2 alike bikes with the different connection types
 
Well the fin can be rotated to suit marginatus, the difficulty of connecting to the lunocet has just recently been mentioned about how hard it is in the swirling ocean to put on, it might be dearer but I wouldn't think by much, power transfer would only be down if at all by the same amount as what would be the difference between 2 alike bikes with the different connection types
As mentioned previously, the pedals have some play in them... in water body can move more freely then in a bike so that "play" can be counter productive. About the tuna fin vs dolphin, the tuna fins is optimized for that orientation...or maybe it has to do with the body shape... I'm not the best person to talk about this...

No problem, smiley faces scan be sneaky :)
 
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Why don't the dol fin or lunocet offer an option to connect via the clipless pedal system, it seems it would be easier to connect to . And im surprised by both of these producers patenting there products with the costs involved,

I determined that it was more important to have the shoes held in alignment with the fin and adding clips would make the system sloppy. This is why I bolt the shoes directly to the DOL-Fin X-20 frame. Also, there is not much benefit to releasing the shoes, because who wants to walk around in wet shoes anyway? The first thing you do when you get out of the water is dry off and change into dry clothes.

As I understand it, the old Lunocets did use the clip system, but people had issues with the shoes moving around. I think the 2014 Lunocet is now doing it like the X-20 and bolting solid.
 
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Think I've asked Ted about this pedal clip idea. I think it has been tried. The freedom to rock and rotate a little is highly desirable with the pedaling movement on a bike. The same freedom of movement is perceived as a sloppy waste of energy and lack of directional control in the swimming movement. I think the extra thickness is also undesirable. Hope I'm remembering the answer correctly.

SO happy to hear about your shipment Noa !!!!!! Your smile is visible from Nebraska!
 
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I know it started as jest but.....Just to entertain yourself experiment with rolling to your side and swimming on. These newer Lunocets remain very stable on their side. Directional and depth control stay with you and the view really opens up!
For bonus points, try and have some of the fin above the surface so it looks like a shark fin or what? ;)
 
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Think I've asked Ted about this pedal clip idea. I think it has been tried. The freedom to rock and rotate a little is highly desirable with the pedaling movement on a bike. The same freedom of movement is perceived as a sloppy waste of energy and lack of directional control in the swimming movement. I think the extra thickness is also undesirable. Hope I'm remembering the answer correctly.

SO happy to hear about your shipment Noa !!!!!! Your smile is visible from Nebraska!
Right now you can see my smile in Nebraska. When I actually get the fin, you'll be able to see it from Saturn !
 
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I know it started as a jest but.....Just to entertain yourself experiment with rolling to your side and swimming on. These newer Lunocets remain very stable on their side. Directional and depth control stay with you and the view really opens up!
well, no smile from the Azores yet... so will take a while to try
 
I have used my Lunocet sideways! sometimes that is just because it is halfway from face down to face up; sometimes it's to do the shark-fin thing and watch the kids at the pool act scared :-) I do sometimes swim face up underwater, a foot or two under the surface. It is interesting when the pool is not busy and I can see the reflection on the bottom of the surface... Going swimming in a few, with the new Pro! more time to get it dialed in (and get me dialed in too :-) more pix coming too.
 
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I had a great swim tonight with the Lunocet Pro-got used to it/dialed in better for me. The fin has much more power than the standard Lunocet; whereas with the standard it takes at least 2-3 strokes to build up speed, the Pro is good to go from one kick for me. The standard only hits its efficiency when you're moving and then it's great for sustained speed-but with the Pro kick and glide is much easier. I'm no DYN master, but I can easily match what I can do with my glide (or way better than nemo) just after two swims. I'm pretty sure I will be able to do much more with the Lunocet Pro but didn't try to tonight as I was sharing a lane with my wife (she had the top half and I had the bottom half :-) Out of all the fins I've used so far this feels the most "organic", like it's part of me. I found it quite easy to not be very aware of the fin at all, just focusing on the swimming. On the standard Luno, until I get warmed up/loosened up I have to focus on technique because the fin is light in the water-that's a good thing once I get warmed up but I have to concentrate a bit more at first. The Pro actually feels "right" much sooner in the swim for me and makes for a smooth/relaxing swimming sensation. One thing I have to point out that is wrong in my first photo post: the two flukes need to be pushed "together" before tightening the screws. The slight movement possible before tightening permits easier assembly and disassembly, and once the bolts are tightened it is a very solid piece that feels sturdy. Correctly assembled it looks like this:
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Thanks for the video!

At 145# did your son express a preference for the larger or smaller Lunocet?

I gather the Pro is your favorite!

The reason I ask is a suspicion that my boat has grown way to large for my propeller. Hoping the larger pro will partially compensate.....
 
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The pro is my favorite for underwater swimming of the slower/relaxed/meditational type of swim. I may actually prefer the classic for fast surface swimming or sprinting underwater, as once it gets cooking it works quite well. As I do not have any opportunity to work on distance much (no buddy, haven't been to a freedive certification course, etc.) I use the underwater swimming time as my relax time. Sometimes I will first just sink to the bottom and lay there a few seconds, then gently push off and see how peacefully/smoothly I can glide through the water. To me, it's a bit like underwater yoga or something! The Pro works wonderfully for this. I think my son preferred the Classic flukes, as he is faster with them. It may be because they permit a cadence closer to his normal butterfly cadence. He still loved the Pro flukes though!
 
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The pro is my favorite for underwater swimming of the slower/relaxed/meditational type of swim. I may actually prefer the classic for fast surface swimming or sprinting underwater, as once it gets cooking it works quite well. As I do not have any opportunity to work on distance much (no buddy, haven't been to a freedive certification course, etc.) I use the underwater swimming time as my relax time. Sometimes I will first just sink to the bottom and lay there a few seconds, then gently push off and see how peacefully/smoothly I can glide through the water. To me, it's a bit like underwater yoga or something! The Pro works wonderfully for this. I think my son preferred the Classic flukes, as he is faster with them. It may be because they permit a cadence closer to his normal butterfly cadence. He still loved the Pro flukes though!
spoiled fellas :)
 
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