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airguns: Sporasub One Air 2012!!!

Thread Status: Hello , There was no answer in this thread for more than 60 days.
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I just opened my one air 90
The muzzle has two o rings.
In the pics it doesent show that.
The users guide is crap. It has
Instructions and shows fig 1 but there is no
Figures in the manual.
 
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bmwgsboy said:
I just opened my one air 90
The muzzle has two o rings.
In the pics it doesent show that.
The users guide is crap. It has
Instructions and shows fig 1 but there is no
Figures in the manual.
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Is the user manual multi-lingual? Omer usually have four (maybe more) languages on each page with the drawings opposite so that you see the diagram while reading the relevant text. Mares tend to put drawings in one (Italian) section which you have to refer back to when reading one of the other languages. Maybe you could put a scan or image up of some of the pages.
 

There is no drawings at all.
Was there a new design on the muzzle??
Every search I did does not look like the one
I have. The one I have is shorter and has two o rings
On the outside if the muzzle I will try to uPload some pics.
 
Hey there,
Really wanted to bump this one up as I have looked back into this thread numerous times and I can't be the only one to wonder what the status is on the One guns.
Are they out with users and how do they perform...?

Best,
David
 
I have been spending some hours on the amazing Italian forum of pescasubapnea and eg. they have a long thread on the Spora One Air.
From that thread and a few others and unless Google Translate is a lot off, it seems like a lot of the guys who are already into dry barrel guns are not super impressed - even some that have tried the One Air. They basically say that though the balance, aiming, "swingability" and trigger/handle on the One Air are nice, but that it lacks the power of a 13mm modified gun.
(BTW, a lot of these guys also seem to feel that the 1.5mm trigger pin mod on any other gun than perhaps the Air and Airbalete(?) is a real necessity.)
A few of them even seem kinda angry/betrayed/disappointed and feel Sporasub dropped the ball on the design when they decided to stay with an 11mm barrel knowing it would be a dry barrel gun. I think, I saw one or two posters saying that on the reef with smaller, more evasive fish, the Air One could be great but that he would use a 13mm gun in blue water or on bigger fish.
They seem to agree, that a 13mm barrel gun with pretty much any dry barrel kit and a 1.5mm trigger pin is the way to go for power over the One Air.
Anyone here wants to give a few cents? How powerful, fast would eg. a One Air 110cm be compared to a similar sized dry modded 13mm gun? Also, some say the Air One is measured a bit different than other pneumatics - that they are a bit short. So, a 110cm Air One is more like a 100-105 Asso eg?

On a somewhat similar subject, everyone seems to agree pneumatics outpower bandguns. Does a 110cm airgun outpower a 110 bandgun or is it that it outpowers a bandgun which is similar in size with its longer spear? Which I guess would be like a 90 cm, or so, bandgun compared to a 110cm pneumatic.

Sorry for all these questions, some of them very basic. I am dry-modding my 90cm Seac now, but thinking quite a bit about what the next (longer) gun for me will be... Maybe the smart move would be a 115 Seac, then I'd have less "getting used to" and also, in a pinch I could change spare parts if needed. (I spear on vacations only).

(Disclaimer - I am quite possibly paraphrasing and interpreting a lot here as I read the 23 pages on the Italian forum over a few nights with a lot of other inputs mixed in. That said, I think I got the most of it right)
 
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I would love to be able to comment on how the one air is, but i chose not to buy that gun for several reasons, and as far as i know, i think made the right choice. I dont know any people at all that have this gun primarily because of all the hiccups that were involved along the way.

Personally I think if you are building a 90 right now there is no need to also get a 110, there wont be THAT much difference in the two....step it up to a 130 or a 140 and have a gun that will reach out and touch the larger fish in the deeper water. The two guns i have are a 133 sten and a 90 asso, and i think its a great combination. Either way tho, being a gear whore i still want another larger gun.
 
Just for fun the "Nightfighter" version mentioned earlier on this thread! Something to put inside those empty side tanks.
 

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Just for fun the "Nightfighter" version mentioned earlier on this thread! Something to put inside those empty side tanks.
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I note that the Sporasub official web-sites still show the photos of this gun with the "windows" in the nose cone rather than the gun with the shorter projecting muzzle and flattened style of nose cone which was discussed here and eventually returned to Omer. Surely if the gun is being offered as a stocked item then the photos would be updated by now, or maybe the final version is still a work in progress.
 
Just for interest, despite their promises of a full report into my faulty One Air, Omer have refused to contact me about it.

It's the last Omer product I will buy. I would avoid it.
 
I bought the Airbalete 100 model a couple years ago and I loved it. Only had to service it recently this Dec. I also just bought the One Air 100 and expect it within a week. Looking forward to it. I also own a JBL and 3 Riffes-the B Bottom, the paduak 00S and the metal tech mach V. I'll post something on the one-air when I take it out.
 
Hi uberman, yes please let us know what you think of your new gun in due course..
 
So, got my One Air 120.
Have only had it out a few days and since I am still new to spearing and I only ever had an Seac Hunter 90 (like an Asso) before, it is limited how much of a review I can give. Better perhaps to shoot some questions at me and I'll see what I can do.

Initial thoughts:

  • I was afraid gun would be too long. But it is manageable. I am 1.70 (short guy) but can load it with an extender at 22-23 Bar. (Taking it up to 25 now)
  • It does swing slow side to side and even slower up and down. I get around it by twisting my wrist at an angle or grabbing the barrel with my other hand.
  • It's slightly negative loaded with a reel and GoPro. Positive w.o. spear where it floats pointing upwards (I think GoPro keeps handle down). I don't know if it would be neutral w.o. cam and reel.
  • When I received the gun it had a red warning sticker around the handle saying that the line release HAD to be engaged prior to loading, otherwise gun could accidentally misfire...! So, perhaps that's what came out of Broseidon's experience - that Sporasub investigated and found out they had a designed a trigger that was only safe when operated in one of two possible ways of loading it. Not super cool to be honest. I have actually forgotten to "load" line release a few times and since I have been around other spearos, I had to shoot and reload in vain. A hassle to say the least.
  • One nice thing about the line release/trigger is that it lets go quite a bit before firing spear, so I am pretty sure that line is completely released when spear starts moving (an issue since there is no slider on the spear - mono is tied to front of spear).
  • Also, the trigger is nice and soft and I am pretty sure it can even be set softer.
  • I have four wraps (loops) on it and it almost pulls that at 22-23 bar.
  • W.o. much to compare with I feel it shoots fast and quiet but accuracy is weird as the three fish I have gotten so far have all been shot a bit low and back...;-)
  • Speaking of accuracy, I do have an idea that it is easier to aim a nice band gun with a straight line of sight along the top of the spear. Somehow, I don't like aiming this thing over the top of the barrel, but tend to aim along the narrower side. But I hope with more practice, this is not going to be an issue.
  • There is no way to hold the spear when not loaded (like other pneumos). I wish the handle and muzzle would have some tabs one could snap the spear into. Now, I have two small loops of latex tubing (think rubberbands) that I secure the spear with and wrap around my wrist when not in use. Works OK.
So far, I am pleased with it. And very pleased that it is not too long. Mind you, it is a 120cm model but the spear is probably shorter than that of a 90cm band gun.


As said, feel free to ask questions and I'll see what I can do,
David
 

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Thank for your review
I have one in a 90 and feel it
May be to short I should have gone
For the 120, since I always used a
95 hf band. Only used in a pool at
Target. When I shoot it feel like there
Is no powe set at 23b but it sure
Goes into a rinehart target meant for a crossbow
It goes in about 1 and half inch at 4.5m
Not bad. I might be selling it to get the bigger one.
 
The problem was already known about, it was just that his gun was sent out without the red sticker. If you read back he actually told us that himself somewhat later.
 
popgun pete said:
The problem was already known about, it was just that his gun was sent out without the red sticker. If you read back he actually told us that himself somewhat later.
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Hi Pete,
As always, great to hear from you.
Are you sure, it was a known issue back then? I have to admit, that it's been a while since I read that thread and I could go back and read the whole thing, but that's for later - now, the sea is waiting
But from memory I don't think Broseidon (or anyone else) knew back then that it could misfire if the line release was not engaged prior to loading. (Neither do I think, that it is 100% identified as that being the reason his did as Broseidon says, that Sporasub, despite promises, never got back to him to share their findings.)
Possibly back when his decided to go off, none of the Air Ones shipped with that sticker? Mine had a yellow sticker AND the red one. Also, as far as I could tell, there was no mentioning of this issue in the manual (I'll check again later). So, it seems like an afterthought. Something they discovered very late in the process (maybe after shipping the first ones) and instead of redesigning and further delaying, they chose the cheaper option of printing a bunch of red stickers.

Anyways, I like the gun so far. Hell, I like the trigger a lot. Just not 100% cool with shipping a product with a design error that surely could have been properly taken care off. What happens when these guns make their way to second and third owners who are more likely never to have heard of the important "line release first" loading sequence? (If I ever sell mine, I will stress this of course).

Again, I like, like, like the gun. But I also like nice principles
 
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Well I did not know about it either, but the red sticker and other documentation was missing as once he got back to Omer the facts about the warning were relayed to him. This line release problem must have been noted in the beginning, and not being something that they could eliminate they printed the stickers instead. If it was an easy fix then there would be no more red stickers. I guess you could say the problem was down to him not reading the instructions, but that is pretty difficult if they have not been supplied in the first place! That is what happens when things are rushed to make a sale when stock is not readily available.
 

Thanks for The Feedback David.

Can you tell me what you think the kill range of the gun is from the muzzle?

My Asso115 (similar size) with tovarich kit is around 6mtrs, but i would say i am far more comfortable shooting something at say 5mts than 6.
 
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