Barack Obama, Hawaiian Spearo?!

Fondueset said:

We're all maoists now eh? I look forward to the day you present us with an original idea.

Click to expand...

Not "all of you" thankfully. Many however do shill for Marxism in it's various versions without understanding really what it is they are shilling for.

As for original ideas, Obama's quotes out of "The Communist Manifesto" and his ties to Black Liberation Theology, didn't seemed to stop you from voting for him.

Fondueset said:

The problem, as I see it - and I am absolutely right - is the whole bit has got too politicized. Take George Bush, for example. Now that he's out of the running he's actually begun to govern. Another good example is our man Roy, I'll bet you 18cents he has not had actual contact with any of Obamas ideas, but rather is feeding off versions spooned out to him.

Click to expand...

Wrong again. I have been "exposed" to Obama's "ideas" and ideas of his mentors (Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright) extensively. That is precisely why I can smell the stench of militant Socialism a mile away and why I dislike leftist demagoguery.

Fondueset said:

Another good example in this country are gun owners. Theres been a run on firearms thanks to the NRA's attempt to portray Obama as a guy who's going to take everybody's guns away. Shear hysteria - unsupported by the record if you take the time to look.

Click to expand...

This statement above is ether an outright fabrication on your part or you are simply ignorant of the facts. Obama is connected and OWES favors to every rabid "gun control" assclown in this country.

Fondueset said:

Mccain started to show what appeared to be some pretty serious lapses in judgement. I've always thought well of him, and still do, but this is not his time.

Click to expand...

Yet another "impartial" red herring.

Fondueset said:

As a country we seem to have lost the ability to work together and actually wish whoever is in office well. The mere fact that they are identified with what we imagine to be 'the other side' means we condemn them right out of the gate. It's tar pit thinking my friends

Click to expand...

That is rich, coming from the side that invented "class warfare" (spread the wealth around) and overt racism (affirmative action).

Fondueset said:

In this state we had a proposal on the ballot to allow stem cell research in the state. Many people decried it as immoral, said it would cost taxpayer dollars blah blah. What it was about was creating a biotech corridor in this state which, along with wind energy, can enable us to move out of the automotive industry which, frankly, the chinese will soon kick our asses in, and into advanced biotech and alternative energy - where we can exploit the american capacity for innovation and get into an industry -- alt energy - that the Chinese and every other budding industrial nation desperately need because of blistering pollution problems. This kind of thinking is not political, or idealistic, or socialistic or any other convenient pe-packaged template for the identity deprived - it's smart - and smart is what we need to be now - unless you want to go down Roy's road to fossildom.

Click to expand...

Stem cell research ... you seem to be shy to differentiate between adult stem cell and embryonic stem cell research. Totally bypassing an ethical debate centered on research involving the creation, usage and destruction of human embryonic stem cells. A practice that is is a slippery slope to reproductive cloning and fundamentally devalues the worth of a human being.

As for "fossildom". Yet again it was the Leftwing "identity-rich", Knee-jerk hate America" crowd who stopped the development of the nuclear plants in USA.


But hey .. since you haven't really addressed the fact that a singe party which spouts Marxist slogans is controlling: Public Education, Mass Media, and now Presidency, House and Congress in the USA ... and the fact that within past 60 years NAZIS and Communists had similar setups. I will not demand too much from you. You seem to be incapable of staying on the subject. Don't feel bad thou, most of my Leftwing acquaintances can't . It would require reason and logic, which are in short supply on that side of the political spectrum.

strangelove said:

He won fair and square and still had time to kill some fish ! But don't worry just give enough rope and the democrats will hang them self's. Politicians needed to be replace on a regular basis. Your statement does not hold water the current administration was the one that started the rhetoric of "if you don't agree with me you must not like your country", totally undemocratic and silencing the debate.

Back to what matters, spear fishing !

Here it is, the snook he landed down in Brazil almost a world record.rofl

View attachment 21801

Click to expand...

Nice pic ! Looks like something AP or Reuters would publish without a second look ! rofl rofl rofl

Roy

you must be a member of the John Birch Society.

Help, there's reds under the bed!




If you think the commies have got to your boys, you should look at our government. Those damned Soviet dogs had Helen Clarke under the thumb from the start and Key is nearly as bad. I think they've been adding mind-control substances to the water supply. I've stopped drinking the water and I'm building my own shelter in the back yard. I'll be fine, but god help the rest of you Tiananmen Square-supporting, wealth-redistributing scum!

Roy is just demonstrating everything that's wrong with Rove and Bush.

No, not that they are republicans- I firmly believe that everyone is entitled to their own political, economic, religous belief system- but that everyone who disagrees with them is somehow evil.

It would be fine if Roy would just say that he believes there's a better way to fix the ills of our country. If his candidate has a different strategy that he believed in more- so be it. But that's not what he has done. Instead, those that differ in his philosophy are not only wrong but down right evil in every imaginable way- Marxist, Communist, Nazi, Facist, etc.

Before Rove came along politcians could beat each other up on the house floor and then go for a drink at the end of the day to patch things up before the next policy battle. Since Rove came along there's no room for friendship or bi-partisianship in this country. It is for this reason that I feel Rove is a traitor- by dividing the American people, for political gain, during a time of (suppossed) war. During a time of war our politicains should be doing everything in their power to bring us together- damn the politics.

I have friends, and dive buddies, who are die-hard republicans. We differ on policy- yet I trust them with my life on deep trimix dives. I will say that while my friends may differ with me on many issues, they are not racists- nor do they stoop to name calling to make their point. What they ARE, are fiscally conservative people who believe the free market can solve all problems.


So, Roy, when you get on here and site some specific policy that you feel can more directly solve a problem people will listen to you- even if we disagree. However, when you post slanderous nonsense about someone you've never met we all just shake our heads and wonder bomb shelter you live in.

As far as one party rule goes, well the Republicans of this country showed us just how bad an idea that was during the first 6 years of the Bush administration. So far it seems as if Obama wants to cross party lines and bring this country together, in spite of the best efforts of guys like Roy, and I hope he continues to do so.

Jon

Jon said:

Roy is just demonstrating everything that's wrong with Rove and Bush. ............ Jon

Click to expand...

You refuse to address points I brought up. I know, truth hurts.

As for "slanderous nonsense" ..... why don't you go back and reread you own post.

strangelove said:

Roy

you must be a member of the John Birch Society.

Click to expand...

Not a memeber of anything (lets leave "membership" issues to "community organizers" who planned to incite massive violent riots if Obama was to lose the elections).

I just call them like I see them.

roy_nexus_6 said:

Not a memeber of anything (lets leave "membership" issues to "community organizers" who planned to incite massive violent riots if Obama was to lose the elections).

I just call them like I see them.

Click to expand...

That was probably just another rumor , the only factual incidents were two attemps to take Obamas life (stop by FBI) , and one Mccain supporter who carved a O on her face. Those were the only factual incidents one could mention. Both against Obama, I think you are just playing into Rove fear manual, the same spech Cheney and others like to spread.

All this comunist infiltration talk inspire me to watch Dr. Strangelove once again. Thanks for that !

strangelove said:

That was probably just another rumor , the only factual incidents were two attemps to take Obamas life (stop by FBI) , and one Mccain supporter who carved a O on her face. Those were the only factual incidents one could mention. Both against Obama, I think you are just playing into Rove fear manual, the same spech Cheney and others like to spread.

Click to expand...

awww .. the boogey men: Rove & Cheney (the two men who stood up to billions of dollars worth of Leftwing propaganda for past 8 years) ...

and you are lecturing me on "factual incidents" and "spreading the rumors" ... LMAO !

Pull your head out of the "dailycos" - Wake up and smell the coffee.

You'd think you were visiting pro - Hussein Obama's website ... http://www.cpusa.org/ Or does it falls in to "spreading rumors" category ? Give it a little read and see if there is anything there that is diff. from what modern DNC stands for. Same rhetoric and demagoguery you would hear from Reid, Pelosy and Obama. Just to think that this are the Obama supporters, who managed to give us the Soviet Union, Cambodia, N. Korea and Cuba.

Enjoy the movie. Good night and good luck.