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You would defend a culture simply because it exists?? No culture can possibly be bad? One culture can’t be better or worse than another? All cultures are equal?Fwiw, I do defend their culture, even if it's for the sole reason of it being their culture, including their eating habits and market practises, not our culture.
We are far from being perfect ourselves but Western culture has undoubtedly reached a time in history where it is superior to many Middle Eastern & Asian countries, to say otherwise is delusional.You can't judge them using our culture as ruler. Why are we right and they wrong? Are we special?
A democratic society and a brutal communist regime are not remotely the same game. I’m all for every country being allowed to live how they see fit, but not when it’s to the detriment of everybody else.We're different players with different tactics, playing the same game.
I liked the story about the guy who bought 18.000 bottles of hand-sanitizer to resell them when the pandemic would hit. He now had to donate them to charity under social and government pressure.And more than few politicians with their own self interest actively tried to block any action to get ready.
It’s very worrying that you keep saying things are like for like when in fact they are completely different. Our systems may not be perfect but we most certainly do not cook animals why they are still alive, slit their throats to let them bleed out etc. We try to do things as humanely as we possibly can. Only a certain kind of human being puts no value whatsoever on the life of living creatures.No, I do not agree with torturing animals, not on a Chinese market, not in a Dutch/US/French/etc slaughterhouse. We do exactly the same, and even on an industrial scale.
Again, not remotely like for like. There is no moral difference between being black and white, straight or gay etc. There is a very moral difference between beating your wife and not beating your wife. Making an animal suffer and choosing not to. Cultural differences are completely different to every example you just gave.I defend other cultures because, just like in the debate of which one is better in man-vs-women, human-vs-animal, black-vs-white, gay-vs-straight, there is no 'better' in our culture vs theirs.
If you don’t think you are a better person than someone who kills someone because they are gay, stones a women to death because she didn’t wear a head scarf, or doesn’t care about the pain and suffering of living creatures, then you have a very low opinion of yourself. I know I’m better than people like that. It’s a fact!There are things in every culture that I disagree with, but that still doesn't make me the better person.
We disagree, but we are still both equal because morally we are the same. Or very similar at least. If morally we were different then chances are we wouldn’t be equal.With all probability they disagree with parts of my culture too. The two of us disagree as well; now who is the better person? We both say I am, but in reality we're both equal, but not the same.
You’re not seeing me as evil because I don’t do anything evil. It’s the fact that you refuse to say people that are doing evil things are evil that’s so peculiar.I see your reasoning, I understand it, I disagree with it, but I'm not seeing you as evil because of it.
And your rapes and sexual assault numbers are going up significantly every year. But if that’s something ‘Amsterdammers’ are OK with then good luck to you. It’s strange how you’ll happily accept that rape is bad but a culture that encourages it can’t be deemed to be a worse culture than one that doesn’t.I'm from the Netherlands. In just our capital city, Amsterdam, we have about 180 nationalities and many more cultures and subcultures living side by side. Instead of fighting, we see all of us as 'Amsterdammer' and value our differences.
I guess if this 'left wing ideology' is a virus then we're patient zero.
Which translates to “I don’t have the slightest idea how to respond to sound logic and common sense without veering from my left wing, globalist, cult like stand point”I'm not very comfortable with the direction this is heading. So, ok.
Seriously?? I’ve always loved this forum for it’s lack of trolls and keyboard warriors but I didn’t know genuine, adult debate was off the table. I have strong opinions and I’ll happily discuss them with anyone who thinks they can prove me wrong. I’m equally happy to be proved wrong. Every day’s a school day. Way out of line? Do me a favour.This has gone far enough. Woohoo you are way way out of line.
Moderators take note.
Not sure how you think my words on a forum can cause you damage exactly?? Of course I have no ill feeling toward you at all. I thought you may be as opinionated as me and happy to fight your corner. I now know different.No, it means I'm not comfortable with you putting me on a chopping block for something that originated in the corona-topic, inflating and pushing it in a direction that almost feels manufactures for the sole cause of inflicting damage to me. I'm not on this forum for this, and hopefully you're not either.
Baring in mind that on at least 3 occasions I said that we’re far from perfect when it comes to animal welfare in the West. It is after all a very hard balance to strike. We want animals to suffer as little as possible, while at the same time accepting that animals being bred for human consumption is an inevitable and natural part of human life.Woohoo - Google "how are chickens slaughtered".