Diving in dreams

[DeepThought]

Lucid dreaming + Diving in dreams

Funny this turned into a lucid dreaming thread.
I love lucid dreaming and have about 10-20 of those per year. But I'm also too lazy to aquaire the methods of increasing their freqency.

Making a journal seems to be very effective, except the theory of connecting your dreaming mind with your awake mind there's also the theory that many dreams have repetitive elements, and if you make a journal it helps you recognize those repetitive elements when you encounter them in your dreams again which can help you wake up inside them.

Another method is called 'reality check'. You start looking at stuff in your waking life that affirm that you are awake, like your hands, clocks, playing with the light switch etc. Then when you do that in your dream it is supposed to make you aware that you are dreaming...

Another method that worked for me only when it happened accidentaly (tried to do it on purpose but it didn't work so far) is to set an alarm early in the morning, getting out of bed for a while and then going back to sleep. Some need an hour out of bed, thinking about what they want to draem about, others just go to the toilet and back.

There are more methods and tutorials around the net for those who are interested.
http://www.ld4all.com/ forums is where I conducted my first look for methods. Haven't checked this site for years though.
This seems like a nice collection of tutorials (googled):
http://www.dreamviews.com/tutorials.php

One of the best movies I've seen ever that deals to some extent with lucid dreaming is Waking Life. The whole movie is in an altered state of mind so most people might not connect.

As for senses working in dreams, usually the "stronger" the dream is, the more senses I will have working in it. I've heard music I know and music I don't know, I've tasted desserts that don't exist, I felt wind on my body, electrostatic charges building up, hammers going through my cranium, whatever. Usually not when lucid dreaming.

Have had a few freediving dreams in which I usually started to breath at some point or found some dream method that allowed me not to. But I never noticed real apnea induced by a dream. Maybe I'm not diving enough. :-/

 

[land shark]

A friend of mine used to dream of great inventions. He told me he was gonna write them down next time he had such a dream. Later I asked him how it was going? he replied " nothing but jibberish" he could not read a thing he wrote down.

 

[DeepThought]

Just remembered since it happened to me yesterday, a kind of dream that is more rare for me is to have a normal dream in which I will go to sleep and have a lucid dream in it. It is kinda hard to tell sometimes if I was actually awake and having a lucid dream or dreamed I did.

 

[naiad]

Last night I was dreaming about huge carp and holding my breath again. Maybe it's because yesterday's diving session was cancelled and I needed to hold my breath.

 

[land shark]

You guys never dream about work??

 

[yugyug]

You guys never dream about work??

all the time. Generally the worst kind of dream......and I enjoy my work!

 

[sheepeck]

For those of you who will try to remember their dreams - Don't look at the window just after waking up otherwise you won't remember any. At least that's the way one proverb goes here in Czech

 

[IronLung]

Ah, a thread about dreams. I am well known by my friends as having the strangest dreams. I could go on and on, but I'm gonna only tell one dream for now, though it may go long, due to the amount of detail I can still recall.

I dreamt I was taking a test in English class, And the test wasnt about getting answers right, it was about how quickly they were answered. So the whole class is furiously writing down answers as quickly as possible. We all finish almost at once and rush to the front of the class to turn them in. The wall behin s the teachers desk drops away and opens up into a bug tunnel. The walls, floor and ceiling of which are all flashing with different lights and paterns and colors. Its really wild looking. Now its a foot race. (I'm not sure if this is still part of English class or not, but we all rush in) As we all are running, these flying octopus robot things like in the Matrix come out of the walls. I start shooting at them with my laser gun and am quickly racking up points. I thought the goal was to have as many points as possible at the end of the race, so I slowed down so I could shoot more of the enemies. I was falling behind however, because no one else was shooting, they just kept on running as fast as they could. I decided I better start trying to catch up. Somehow or another the race ended, I dont rememeber much of it though. Anyway, all of a sudden, im talknig to a friend of mine frm the swim team, and he says everyone is looking for me. We head over to the pooldeck, and someone says "He can find it no problem, he can hold his breath forever!" And I ask "What am I here to find?" Apparently some girl lost a diamond from her earring. And also bets were ging on about how quickly I would be able to find it. most peopel predicted I'd find it on one breath. So I don my goggles and hop in. The bottom of the pool appears to be littered with little diamonds and other small gemstones. I scoop up a handful and put them all ont he side of the pooldeck. Everyone gasps "howd you find so many?!?" And I said "theyre all over the bottome of the pool! How could I NOT find any?" So the girl comes over and after looking through the pile of stones, finds one that is about the same size and cut as the stone in the other earring. All of a suddent he edge of the pooldeck, which used to look over the basketball courts, now overlooks the edge of a cliff. There is a railing around the edge and we all walk over to look. A big cruise ship is sailing by, and it has this big whirling thing on top of it. Its got 4 rotors, but on the end of each rotor, ther eis either a rabbit or a donkey; each sitting on a glowing white square. As the ship sails past, the donkies and rabbits are being whirled around and come pretty close to the cliff. the donkies bray and the rabbits growl as they come close. All of a sudden, the rotors lift off into the sky and the sky is filled with rabbits and donkies, zooming around on glowing white squares, swooping and diving through the air.
Soon after, I woke up, wondering what I may have eaten or drank or what that would give me such a dream as that.

 

[yugyug]

wow. Do you mind if I analyse that?

 

[perow1]

I think there is no limit to how screwed up things cat get in dreams. Sometimes i think this applies to real life aswell.

 

[rhillier]

Regarding sleep apnea, it is indeed a very dangerous condition, but at least the chances are that when you go, you will die in your sleep.

I have a very bad case of it... in the sleep clinic, I was medically observed to have "stopped breathing" (probably holding my breath) for over 12 minutes, and I doubt that there was any preparatory breath-up for that one.

 

[naiad]

Over 12 minutes!!! I didn't even know that was possible.

 

[yugyug]

I'm guessing that even if you had stopped breathing action, if your airways were open there would have still be some oxygen exchange....? freaky.

 

[rhillier]

Yugyug,

I wish that were the case, but with sleep apnea, breathing stops due to blockages to the breathing passages. Who knows what's happening. All I know is that I was quite shocked when the doctor told me about my "feat", as well as the fact that I "woke up" over 500 times in 7.5 hours. Apparently, waking up does not necessarily mean to full consciousness.

>>> Rick <<<

 

[Pacific]

I had a deram around the first week of april:

we were driving and ran out of gas in a jungle place and there was a bog like thing with lobsters in it. we saw two people and they said catch some lobsters and well give you some gas. so me and my brother set of to herd the lobsters and then i found myself wandering off.. next thing i know im in a swimming pool and star fish start "blossoming" and growing out of no where. i see a huge one and decide i want it. i dive down and get ready to grab it, but just then a huge sea urchin sprouted and pricked me. as their sting causes paralysis, i swam up before i lost total control and tried to climb out, but just as i got to the edge, my muscles just gave out and i hit the water. i knew that i could hold my breath and wait till the guy at the pool came to my rescue so i took a breath and tried calming my heartrate upon descent. i woke up in a bed with blankets on me and all i could remember was falling and falling in the pool and i guessed i blacked out and wound up here.

weirrrrd.

 

[yugyug]

this is a weird experience I had when I was 18. its not about diving but then this topic has gone so way off topic I reckon no one will mind...

I was dreaming that I was in a strange country house, having a party with some of my friends. I put my hand on a wall and I was bitten by a small black spider. I fell to the ground, paralysed, and my friends came over to see what the matter was and I remember looking at their faces above me when I ... woke up. I was lying on my back, in my bed, and I couldn't move any part of my body except my eyes. I was completely paralysed, and I want to emphasize that I wasn't dreaming now; I was complete awake, and try as I might I couldn't move any part of body at all. All I could do was look around the room and think about wtf was going on. It was quite freaky. The passage of time felt odd. My mind was soon engaged with figuring out a way to signal for help. I pretty much worked out that was impossible, unlesss I could somehow make sound with my eye movements (!). I wondered what it would be like when my mum or dad found me in an hour or so. The macabre comedy of them thinking I was playing a joke at first, then the distress and fear when the ambulance was coming. Then I started fantasizing about what it would be like to be paralysed for life. I imagined being in hospital and my grandparents visiting me. They were worried, but I couldn't communicate with them. Eventually my parents bought me a machine where I could spell out words by looking at letters on a computer monitor, or some such kind of technology I had seen somewhere before..... And it was about then that I suddenly jerked my hand out, and I could move again. Phew. The whole thing lasted about 10 or 15 minutes I think.

I eventually found out that when we sleep our bodies produce a chemical that disables our body. This prevents us from 'acting out' our dreams and hurting ourselves. This is the mechanism that is a bit dodge in people that sleep walk and talk, and I do that. And its possible to wake up without the body releasing the counter-chemical in a timely manner, and thats what happened to me.

Oddly enough its quite common in Japan, and the Japanese even have a special name for it "kanashibari". It has happened to my girlfriend (who is Japanese) quite a few times, though for her its a bit different; it happens when she is just starting to fall asleep, in that kind of mental twilight stage. She wakes up and can't move, but thankfully not as long, maybe only 2-5 seconds, as she finds it really distressing.

My experience was so memorable that I created a photo-montage 'comic' when I was at university studying design. I re-created the dream, the bed paralysis and my hospital fantasizes using my friends, parents and grandparents. I dressed them up (some as as nurses, doctors and stuff) and took pictures of them acting. It was heaps fun, and it got a high distinction

 

[naiad]

yugyug, I have had similar dreams. They don't happen very often, but more since I had a similar real-life experience.
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Last night I was having carpy dreams again. I really need to get some proper diving done.

 

[IronLung]

YugYug, I too have had an experince where I was fully awake, yet unable to move anything but my eyes. It is really scary to think that you are totaly paralyed, but I dont think I've had an episode last more than 30 seconds. Oh, and you can analyse/intepret my wierd dream any way you want, either way, its darn strange.

 

[Kars]

Nice tread here, briliand stories folks!

I had a few freedive -lucid- dreams, not as bizare as the previous exemples.

First one is a short one:

I like to dive in deep pools, and in this dream I was in a deep openair pool. I took a sip of air duckdived and went under. Equalisation was automatic, and I flew down like a skydiver flies in the air. I quess the pool was about 10m deep, squared, tiled, and the sun shined into it. At the bottom I took a glance upward and saw the distand other swimmers hanging at the rim. Swimming up was just as easy, and I loved the pool.

Tomorrow I actually do it in reallife, but this pool is only 5m deep and not outside.

The Other dream that comes to mind was freediving outside in the ocean.
Without suit, no fins I dived down in clear blue waters. The water was nice and warm as I let myself drop from 20m downwards, picking up speed.
At about 40m I took a glance forward saw a rope floating up as wel as brouwnish particles came into view and about 10m away I say a small wreck approaching.
The wreck was like a small 24ft cruiser balancing on a spike like cliff.
The rope I followed was attatched to it, and there were also ropes hanging down from it.
As I went down I fell pretty fast, and though it was my intentio to turn at the wreck I missed it, being to far from it.
I contioued my decent, falling into increasing darkness.
I was going really deep, and I saw in the distance the steep dark wall of the side of the natural pillar where the wreck was situated on speeding by.

Finally I toched bottom, quessing it was about 120m deep. The bottom was sandy and it was dark all arround, with these brown particles in it.
I thought this is really deep, and guessed I would not make it to the surface, but did not got scared.
Ik jumped up and began swimming a very need stroke in an attempt to try to do the impossible, being much negative and much beyond my pb.
Anyway I kept on swimming upwards, and it went actually quiet good.
At about 60m I could see the waters turn into blue again, and a rope from the wreck, which I grabbed and used for a free immersion.
I was in sort of deep, but loose concentration as a little smile played on my face.
The dive was taking long time, and as passed the wreck I felt the energy gradually melting away, but I kept on swimming the best stoke I knew in the best tempo.
At arround 40 I saw a vague sihouette, a mermaid comming. As my conscious began fading away, I was grabbed under my armpits as I passed out only 30m from the surface.
At the surface I was consious again in the wide blue ocean, tinking back about this incredible dive and the luck I got saved in time.

Then I woke up..

Love, Peace and Water!

Kars

 

[dannybuoy]

I forgot about this dream, though it's the only dream i've ever actually revisited and, because of my training, changed. When i was a boy it was a nightmare, but when i had it again no longer. In the dream i am swimming in a river, when suddenly a very wide boat comes at me. There's no time or space to get out of its way, so all i can do is dive under it. I dive down to the bottom of the river and watch as the boat sails over me. Now as a kid i remember looking up in a panick and thinking "have to swim back up have to gonna drown gonna drown", but i couldn't for the boat was still over me and i was afraid of the prop, and then feeling my stomach crunch up; thought that as the first sign of death. It made me wake up. When i had the dream again, i again dove down to the bottom of the river, again watched the boat sail over me, but this time with calm interest. It took a while and i started getting contractions, but after the boat passed it could still wait for the water to calm down a bit and swam back up with ease. When i woke up i realised that what made the first time i had that dream so scary was that i didn't know how to relax underwater, plus i'd never experienced contractions before. Funny how these days i like the kind of dreams that as a child i would have called nightmares.