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Diving in dreams
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Lately I had this totally amazing dream. It might sound boring to most of you, but it felt damn real and I really tought I was in paradise.
So I was diving along a reef in shallow water (maybe 5m), the bottom was sandy and the water was crystal clear, like in a pool. The sun was shining and it reflected on the bottom so it really gave a pool-like effect. So after swimming awhile I came across a hole (about 20-30m) and dove in. I touched the ground and ascended. Then I woke up. A short, but kinda cool dream.
So I was diving along a reef in shallow water (maybe 5m), the bottom was sandy and the water was crystal clear, like in a pool. The sun was shining and it reflected on the bottom so it really gave a pool-like effect. So after swimming awhile I came across a hole (about 20-30m) and dove in. I touched the ground and ascended. Then I woke up. A short, but kinda cool dream.
naiad said:I don't know if this has happened to anyone else, but I sleep much better since I started freediving. It wasn't a problem before, but it did happen that sometimes I couldn't get to sleep for a long time. Now I just do a few statics then curl up and dream about freediving.
Were you ever anaemic in any way, Lucia? That can give you a hard time falling asleep. Maybe now, with training & better diet, that has improved?
Regardless, I think regular physical activity helps you sleep better, and is the best psychological boost ever! In a strange way, dry statics do the same for me - I get this huge feeling of wellbeing afterwards, as if it was "real" physical exercise. Unfortunately, due to the release of adrenalin, I can't just go to sleep immediately after either, and need a couple of hours to unwind first.
Dreams: I've followed this thread from the very beginning, fascinated by the various dreams and how much so many of them resemble my own experiences. Some dream experiences, like levitating or flying due to some special breathing technique, are so real to me that I just feel it is a matter of time before I'll just discover the trick. Something in me felt that this thread may help me achieve that in some way. It feels so real, I just cannot dissuade myself from the idea. Another way in which levitation is achieved in my dreams is through sound, like the sound of these huge Tibetan horns, or animal horns used by shamans for healing.
Many of my dreams had a lot to do with water, even before I started freediving (but then, I sailed a lot, snorkeled a lot and worked as a fisherman for quite a while, many years ago). I've had these dreams of diving and being unable to get to the surface, due to paralysis or some external obstruction - I think they happen, as mentioned here, when the conscious mind is half awake, but the body is paralyzed due to this mechanism that dissociates the mind from the body during sleep. Now they hardly happen, and if they do, I just recognise the situation and marvel at this strange phenomenon where I'm pretty much awake, but can't move my body. When I had them in an underwater setting, I'd just run out of air and then wake up - but I don't think it was common enough to indicate a true sleep apnea disorder.
Another recurring theme in my dreams is ships sailing on land, or land and water being all mixed up. Lots of travel, transportation and movement in my dreams!
We had a lecture at work some time ago: this futurist, a serious scientist who consults governments and corporations worldwide, was talking to us about the predicted technological breakthroughs of the next 20-30 years. He did mention anti-gravity, as well as breaking the speed of light. The most fascinating thing for me, though, was his theory on the deepest motive behind human progress. He proposed that this motive was our wish to experience freedom of movement on an ever-increasing number of dimensions. In this light, I thought, freediving is a very 'architipical' activity, expressing very well this desire for freedom. I think many of the dreams related here share this motive, and I know that for me that just may be my true inner reason to start freediving.
Cheers,
Ofer
Yep, I defined it as a desire to be omnipotent, as basically when I'm freediving I do feel like this. I almost never struggle for numbers, just go down and up as my internal freediving computer tells me.oferdegi said:
In that sense, in periods when I'm truelly happy/blissful (not sure what is the proper english word but I think you know which hebrew one I'm getting at) I also feel omnipotent - because I'm doing exactly what I want at any given moment, so it is pretty similar to be able to do anything.
Is this futurist happen to be Dr. David Passig? (the only Israeli futurist I now of, though I assume he isn't the only one). Feel free to share more of his predictions.
You know this one ?
[ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1883384747925675229&q=freediving"]Passion - Freediving with Sharks[/ame]
[ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1883384747925675229&q=freediving"]Passion - Freediving with Sharks[/ame]
I watched the whole video and now that's what I call amazing. How did he get so good along with sharks? I've always wondered why sharks attack humans anyway. Why do they attack mostly swimmers and surfers rather than divers, just a case of mistaken identity?
DeepThought said:Yep, I defined it as a desire to be omnipotent, as basically when I'm freediving I do feel like this. I almost never struggle for numbers, just go down and up as my internal freediving computer tells me.
In that sense, in periods when I'm truelly happy/blissful (not sure what is the proper english word but I think you know which hebrew one I'm getting at) I also feel omnipotent - because I'm doing exactly what I want at any given moment, so it is pretty similar to be able to do anything.
Is this futurist happen to be Dr. David Passig? (the only Israeli futurist I now of, though I assume he isn't the only one). Feel free to share more of his predictions.
I think I know what you mean, but for me it doesn't seem like an absolute freedom - omnipotence seems so godlike and powerful to me - but more a freedom of being in tune, in the flow, making the best/optimal use of who you are, where you are, what you have. Going mystic, i'd say its the freedom achieved by being in harmony with some greater reality. BTW, the next dimension to be overcome, according to D. Passig*, is the fourth - time, and it now occurs to me that there is also a definite feeling of timelessness in such moments - maybe that is the most meaningful freedom we poor mortals can enjoy?
*Anyway, check this out, Michael, if you've got a moment:
http://passig.com/
Cheers,
Ofer
Our minds indeed warp time better than our machines (for nowoferdegi said:
).Found his site yesterday and left it open for more extensive browsing when I'll have the time.
Oh boy, am I warping time in work today... :naughty
That word you used, Michael - omnipotence - just got my mind spinning, and I think I've come up with a better grasp of this feeling I've been trying to define:
For me, it is like going on a sailboat, and getting your sails trimmed just right, and riding the sea just right, and you just fly, and none of this incredible energy is yours, you spend no energy - it is just there and you use it right - and it just passes through you, and it's perfect!
For me, there must also be this quality of effortlessness in freedom - like in the flight dreams, it is not about making this huge effort to lift off, it's just about hitting it right (a mental thing, I guess), and then it just happens.
That word you used, Michael - omnipotence - just got my mind spinning, and I think I've come up with a better grasp of this feeling I've been trying to define:
For me, it is like going on a sailboat, and getting your sails trimmed just right, and riding the sea just right, and you just fly, and none of this incredible energy is yours, you spend no energy - it is just there and you use it right - and it just passes through you, and it's perfect!
For me, there must also be this quality of effortlessness in freedom - like in the flight dreams, it is not about making this huge effort to lift off, it's just about hitting it right (a mental thing, I guess), and then it just happens.
I think we're just looking at the same thing from a different direction.oferdegi said:
(sans mysticism).Today I woke up holding my breath. I don't remember exactly what I was dreaming about, but it was something about diving. It definitely happens more after training a lot. Yesterday I did my first O2 table in a long time, and I guess I still had apnea on my mind.
What you are describing, Michael and Ofer, is more or less the Tao. At least I felt like it is.
Dream: (not really freediving) once I dreamt that I was on the shore of the lake (Balaton). The weather was windy, there were waves with white yeasts. The water itself is light greyish-greenesh.. Then I flew up, and started to fly over the water in about 30 meters high. Then suddenly I noticed a fin in the water, a black one. As I passed over the water, I realized, it is a killer whale, and there were some others, 3-4 in a group. And slowly, as i flow over the surface of the water the color of the water changed into deep blue - and it was the Sea! I liked this dream very much.
Dream: (not really freediving) once I dreamt that I was on the shore of the lake (Balaton). The weather was windy, there were waves with white yeasts. The water itself is light greyish-greenesh.. Then I flew up, and started to fly over the water in about 30 meters high. Then suddenly I noticed a fin in the water, a black one. As I passed over the water, I realized, it is a killer whale, and there were some others, 3-4 in a group. And slowly, as i flow over the surface of the water
the color of the water changed into deep blue - and it was the Sea! I liked this dream very much.
i often feel like i am dreaming when i am in the sea...a bit like Lao Tsu's Butterfly.
My favourite dream when i was smaller, was when i would wake up and find the whole of the ground floor of my house filled with crystal clear water, and i would walk down into it via the stairs, and then glide around pulling myself along on bits of furniture and wall edges etc.
More recently I used to have frequent dreams where a huge city (normally london) was flooded way past the tops of all its tallest buildings in crystal clear sea water, and i would freedive up and down the length of skyscrapers and in and out of buildings, my favourite being freediving in St.Pauls cathederal.....beautiful...
mmmmm....just thinking about it is making me drop into that sleepy relaxed squidgy freedive feeling...
My favourite dream when i was smaller, was when i would wake up and find the whole of the ground floor of my house filled with crystal clear water, and i would walk down into it via the stairs, and then glide around pulling myself along on bits of furniture and wall edges etc.
More recently I used to have frequent dreams where a huge city (normally london) was flooded way past the tops of all its tallest buildings in crystal clear sea water, and i would freedive up and down the length of skyscrapers and in and out of buildings, my favourite being freediving in St.Pauls cathederal.....beautiful...
mmmmm....just thinking about it is making me drop into that sleepy relaxed squidgy freedive feeling...
I'll bet a lot of freedivers put on a real show in bed in general :t
Last time I lucid dreamed... god I felt like I was dead. Its a sensation I can't describe and I thankfully can't remember properly. But I just felt so wrong out of my body, floating uncontrollably around a room. I was so scared after I forced myself to wake up.
I used to do it naturally, but I don't force it to happen anymore. Do you go straight into sleep paralysis and REM from being awake or do you use a sleep adjustment cycle?
I wonder what it would be like to lucid dream of freediving...
There has GOT to be something linked to dreaming, flying and freediving, i'm sure!
You should all go skydiving, I tell you, it's not exactly like flying in your dreams apart from the first few seconds but it's the same complete freedom that you find with dreaming of freediving and flying. Do it!
You should all go skydiving, I tell you, it's not exactly like flying in your dreams apart from the first few seconds but it's the same complete freedom that you find with dreaming of freediving and flying. Do it!