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ocean_314 said:The bottom line is if you are not comfortable diving and with the ocean you dont dive, never mind dive alone.
maytag said:Sorry to hear you experienced such horrendous events.
Would a plastic CPR shield have helped even a little? (Bill's situation?) I was under the impression that scuba divers often keep something like that in a pocket. Freedivers could attach it to a dive float.
I am very well aware of this, having some experience too. I was rather pointing to a paradox that is coming out from this discussion. It would seem that diving solo is OK for every individual (since he will never clean up after himself in case he dies), but it is bad for everyone else than the specific individual.cdavis said:Being angry at someone who died on your watch is very common and very human. Just ask any group of people who had a hard time taking care of another who was dying or a group of people who had to clean up after a suicide. It may not be universal, but its close, and for good reason.
I think that by far the bigger problem is people who are too comfortable with the ocean and diving. Its the highly skilled divers who suffer from SWB.
We just had one in SoCal last month, and everyone said what a great diver he was and what an exceptional breath hold he had.
Bill McIntyre said:Its the highly skilled divers who suffer from SWB.
It may be a question of how we define 'skill'. Skill is often understood as overcoming - willing past limits - extending capacities - efficiency; all in the context of the loop between the ostensbily discreet entity we take ourselves to be and the various abstractions we create to measure ourselves against.-fondueset
laminar said:Was this person a great breath holder only, or would you say that he dove with desire to seek understanding of his limits and the unpredictability of the ocean? Not sure which you mean. I've seen several freedivers who are "better" than I am show little respect or understanding of the ocean. To them it's just in the background on their way to achieving their goals.