I got some of those gloves, and they are soo nice. They are plenty warm in California waters, but you have a great deal of sensitivity through the palm. Great deal. Also considering selling my UK Blue Tang and buying one of the Riffe knives. That's something to keep in mind when buying your stuff; it won't necessarily turn out to be ideal for your circumstances, and if that happens, it's no big deal. Just sell it and buy what you need. Live and learn .