Mifsud announces STA WR attempt

[demasoni]

Good Morning,

Here is a little game for you. Go and get a pen and paper and write down the name of every world / national record holder or just top freediver you respect or has influenced you positively.

Then read the list out loud and ask yourself do you by your words want to bring into doubt EVERY single achievement these people have made to the outside world past, present and especially in the future?

I have made the list, and yes, I don't want to bring their achievements into doubt, as I said before, I think most freedivers are clean. These people on the list are the people that inspired me to get into freediving in the first place.

However, we need to recognize that there always has been and always will be dopers and cheaters in competitive sports, even freediving. Did these people on my list ever dope or cheat? How do I know, I just know that they are human and I will be too naive if I say that these freedivers on my list I admire so much are perfect and could never dope or cheat. They probably haven't. I still admire them though.

Take Lance Armstrong, I think that guy's extremely inspiring and a powerful force. Do many people believe he's doped? Yes. Has he still raised millions for cancer and still won the Tour 7 times? Yes. Has he ever admitted to doping publicly or been proven to have doped? No. I admire the guy, and I will still admire him even if he is caught doping.

Maybe i'm wrong, but not completely, and as for athletes needing big Egos to feel the need to break a world record..... i don't even agree with that altogether.

That's my point, don't need a BIG ego, just an ego. Which we ALL have as humans. When you want to accomplish something, your ego will still come into play, even for a PB dive out of competition.

Don't get me wrong, I too have heard the siren's call at depth telling me, "don't turn now, just a little deeper - you can do it - keep going!" However,
instances like that don't keep me coming back to the water time and again to experience all the wonderful and amazing sensations we love.

 

[s.mifsud]

salut à tous , je me permets de vous écrire en fraçais, puisque quelqu'un sur ce forum sait proposé de traduire.
je ne comprend pas toute les phrases et subtilités de vos réponses, ne maitrisant pas assé l'anglais.
je comprend suffisament pour comprendre toute la méchanceté que certain d'entre vous écrive sur moi. ce qui est certain c'est que mon cas vous intéresse au vu du nombre de post, je vous en remercie. lol
mais beaucoup d'entre vous parle sur moi sans rien savoir, je rigole bien par moment.
vous savez si j'en sui là en ce moment ce n'est pas par hasard.
de nombreuses recherches avec l'armée française, des milliers d'heures d'entrainements, une technique bien approfondie, je suis un passioné et mon metier avant d'etre apnéiste c'est enseigner. j'aime beaucoup cela.
sachez que dans mon club d'apnée, il y a 80% des gens qui font plus de 5' à chaque séance, ce ne sont pas des apnéistes confirmés et beaucoup on commencé en septembre 2008. vous pensez qu'ils sont tous dopé aussi? plusieurs personnes font des series à 7', en faisant 2 entrainement par semaine. je propose des stage en france dans des club, renseignez vous sur les résultats que ces personnes peuvent avoir en 3 jours de stage, certain passe de 4' à 6'15!!! bref, je crois que l'apnée c'est une histoire sérieuse avec des entrainement trés pointu. c'est facile de douter des autres en restant cacher derriere un clavier.
pour ma capacité de 11l, c'est mesuré par la marine natinale, et puis je m'en fout d'avoir 7l.6l ou 15l !!!
pour Monaco, je rigole, j'ai lu que M fatha disai que la veille de la compétition j'ai fait 7' en forcant. il a rien comprit le pauvre à l'entrainement! et puis quand un adversaire vous regarde la veille d'une compétition, vous ne devez pas lui montrer votre réel niveau!! ca a bien marché puisque m fattah à perdu! par contre il était content de venir en france tous frais payés par mon sponsor perso iwc qui a organisé avec Pierre frolla la compétition! vous êtes jaloux m fattah!! c'est pas beau! vous devriz vous entrainer ou venir faire un stage avec des spécialiste si vous n'arrivez pas à progresser.
en ce qui concerne les compétitions: aujourd'hui je ne participe plus au compétition, puisque ma préparation est trés dure pour un record, faire une compétion me demanderai une préparation identique, je n'ai pas les forces ni le mental pour tenter des record et faire des compétitions en meme temps.
je vais arreter de vous ennuyer, mais je lance à nouveau l'invitation si quelqu'un veut venir me voir avec des scientifiques pour valider mes perf, je suis pret. je reprendrai un peu l'entrainement spécialement pour lui! je pourrai faire de jolie perf dans la piscine de mes parents, vous pourrez analyser, l'eau ,l'air,moi, et meme mes parents et le chien pour voir s'il ne respire pas de l'oxygene. mais je vous en prie arreter de salir le travail de toute une équipe pendant des mois tous les jours 6 à 7 heures par jour. de salir la qualité et la gentillesse des juges que je ne connaisais pas et qui on validé mes perfs.

pour finir, je voulais remercier tous ceux qui m'ont fait passer un petit message sympa,

 

[mortenkv]

Thank you for contributing, Stephane!
Morten

 

[samdive]

translation (done quick so forgive if not perfect!):

hello everyone, I'm going to write to you in French and hopefully someone on the forum can translate.

I don't understand all the phrases and subtleties of your replies, as my English is not good enough. I understand enough to understand all the nasty things that some of you are writing about me. What is certain is that at least my situation is interesting to you, for which I thank you. LOL

But many of you are writing about me without knowing anything, which makes me laugh at the moment. You know that if I have reached this point, it is not just by luck. After much research with the French army, thousands of hours of training, a well developed technique - I am passionate and my number one profession before being a freediver, is to teach. I really enjoy that.

Please know that in my freedive club, 80% of the members do more than 5 minutes static at every session. These are not experienced freedivers and many only started freediving in September 2008. Do you think they are all taking doping as well? Several people can do more than 7 minutes, training twice a week. I offer training courses in France through my club. Look at the results that these people can achieve after just 3 days of training - many manage between 4 and 6 minutes 15! In short, I believe that apnea is a serious task with very specific training. It is easy to doubt others when you are hiding behind a keyboard.

As for my lung capacity of 11l, that has been measured by the national navy, I couldn't give a damn if my lungs were 7l, 6l or 15l!

In Monaco, I laugh as I read, that Mr Fattah says that on the eve of the competition I struggled to make 7 minutes. He just does not understand the training! And when a competitor is watching you on the eve of a competition, you do not show him your real level!that seemed to work as Mr Fattah lost! On the other hand, he was quite happy to come to France, all expenses paid by my personal sponsor who organised the competition with Pierre Frolla. You are jealous Mr Fattah! That's not nice! if you don't manage to make any progress, you should take some training with a specialist.

As far as competitions go, I am no longer taking part in any competitions, because my training is so severe for a record, to do a competition would take an equal amount of preparation and I have neither the strength nor the inclination to try record attempts and enter competitions at the same time.

I will stop boring you now, but I would like to once again send out an invitation to anyone who would like to bring scientific researchers to come and validate my performances, I am ready. I will start my training again especially for that person! I can make a great performance in my parents' pool, you can analyse the water, the air, me - even my parents and the dog to see see that he is not breathing oxygen. But I do ask you to please stop dirtying the work that my whole team has put in over many months for 6 or 7 hours a day. And to stop dirtying the quality and kindness of the judges who I did not know, but who validated my performance.

Finally, thank you to all of you who have sent kind messages.

 

[jay cluskey]

thanks sam .
can we all not just move on now ?

 

[trux]

Merci, Stéphane, pour tous les détails. J'ai seulement une petite question. Tu as écrit :

dans mon club d'apnée, il y a 80% des gens qui font plus de 5' à chaque séance, ce ne sont pas des apnéistes confirmés et beaucoup on commencé en septembre 2008. vous pensez qu'ils sont tous dopé aussi? plusieurs personnes font des series à 7', en faisant 2 entrainement par semaine. je propose des stage en france dans des club, renseignez vous sur les résultats que ces personnes peuvent avoir en 3 jours de stage, certain passe de 4' à 6'15!!!

Peux tu nous dire pourquoi ils ne participent pas aux compétitions?! Cette année, si je ne me trompe pas, il y avait un seul mec en France (Christian Maldamé) qui a légèrement dépassé les 7 minutes (il a fait 7:01). Et même entre 6 et 7 minutes il n'y a pas grand monde. Alors si tes apprentis fonts des séries à 7 minutes, je ne comprend pas pourquoi ils ne se sont pas qualifié pour le championnat du monde?

In English:
Thank you, Stéphane, for all the details. I have just a small question. You wrote:

in my freediving club, there are 80% of members who do over 5 minutes at each training, and they are not certified freedivers, most of them just begun in September 2008. ... several freedivers do series of 7 minutes, while training twice a week. I offer courses in clubs in France, ask for the results and see what result people have after just 3 days of lessons, some of them go from 4' to 6'15!!!

Could you tell us why they do not take part in competitions?! This year, if I don't mistake, there was only a single man in France (Christian Maldamé), who did slightly over 7 minutes (he did 7:01). And even between 6 and 7 minutes there were no crowds. So if your pupils do series of 7 minutes, why they did not qualify for the World Championship?

 

[x_yeti]

Trux, I train with a couple of guys who could easily break several of our NRs, but don't because of the lack of opportunities to do so and more importantly the desire to not only break records but to set new records that are decent in comparison to the WRs (especially if they have to fork out $$$ for a competition). I would imagine that there are a lot of freedivers out there that can do 6 to 7 minute statics that aren't known in the mainstream freediving community.

Not being in the know as far as international freediving goes, I have a question:

I get the impression that French freedivers in general do not get on well with AIDA. Is this the case?

 

[trux]

Well, I do not think freedivers in Stéphane's location lack opportunities, and also the participation on compeitions is not that expensive (roughly price of a launch). Well, apparently they are many freedivers with times over 7 minutes, but I still do not understand why they invest money and time into the training, when they do not compete. Well, I see there may be different reasons, but why not even one of them shows at a competition, that evades me completely. I am not searching any sensation, nor do I have any suspiction, I am just asking why is it so, and why we see only much weaker athletes at competitions.

As for French and AIDA, there is no problem. Most of French competitors take part in competitions of both federations.

 

[apneaboy]

Just to try and take the pressure off I think Stepanek just broke another world record.

Well done.

Lets all go to that thread now and exchange comments

mwah

 

[JennyWren]

Just to try and take the pressure off I think Stepanek just broke another world record.

Well done.

Lets all go to that thread now and exchange comments

mwah

Details? Where is the thread? Also, does anyone else get security warnings about malicious content on Stepanek's site?

 

[ILDiver]

Details? Where is the thread? Also, does anyone else get security warnings about malicious content on Stepanek's site?

Yes, it was recently hit with a virus somehow. I think the actual virus is healed. The warning comes from Firefox I think. Sorry for that issue.

http://forums.deeperblue.com/beach-bar/83252-freediving-website-virus.html#post771815

 

[Francine Kreiss]

Merci, Stéphane, pour tous les détails. J'ai seulement une petite question. Tu as écrit :
Peux tu nous dire pourquoi ils ne participent pas aux compétitions?! Cette année, si je ne me trompe pas, il y avait un seul mec en France (Christian Maldamé) qui a légèrement dépassé les 7 minutes (il a fait 7:01). Et même entre 6 et 7 minutes il n'y a pas grand monde. Alors si tes apprentis fonts des séries à 7 minutes, je ne comprend pas pourquoi ils ne se sont pas qualifié pour le championnat du monde?

In English:
Thank you, Stéphane, for all the details. I have just a small question. You wrote:

Could you tell us why they do not take part in competitions?! This year, if I don't mistake, there was only a single man in France (Christian Maldamé), who did slightly over 7 minutes (he did 7:01). And even between 6 and 7 minutes there were no crowds. So if your pupils do series of 7 minutes, why they did not qualify for the World Championship?

Parce qu'au MIF Club, on a tendance à privilégier les perfs et la progression plutôt que les podiums.
Et lorsque l'on a le choix entre un weekend enfermé dans une piscine et une sortie mer entre nous, à rêver dans le bleu, et bien... le choix est rapide

Pour ceux qui font les perfs à 7', y'en a un qui fait des compet, mais n'a pas encore toutes les clés mentales nécessaire pour ressortir cette même perf en compétition.
C'est juste une question de temps, en + il est tout jeunot donc il viendra vite planter sa tente sur la 1ère marche du podium.:thankyou
Ce même apnésite à enchainé 2 fois 7' mercredi dernier !
J'étais là.
La 1ère était un peu dans le dur, la 2ème était très belle.

Un autre copain avec qui je faisais les compet a arrêté l'apnée depuis 6mois et s'est remis à fumer et à se faire des sansndwich aux chips :t
Il est passé nous faire un coucou mercredi, et a sorti .... 6'

Pour ce qui est des championnats du monde.
Malheureusement, cela ne dépends pas de nos perfs, ni de notre bon vouloir,
mais UNIQUEMENT de l'humeur et de la frustration du sélectionneur français.

Pour l'anecdote, j'ai fais toutes les compétitions AIDA cet hiver en vue du Danemark. J'ai fais 1ère en statique à chaque fois et 2ème en dynamique.
J'ai été écarté des sélections parce que j'aurai soi-disant oublié de confirmer mon envie de participer aux championnats par e-mail.:rcard
Le sélectionneur préférant sélectionner des filles de la CMAS ou avec des perfs moindre... si quelqu'un peut m'expliquer...:hmm

Quant tu te retrouves face à ce genre de décisions arbitraire, tu te dis que ta passion de l'apnée mérite mieux que ça. Et tu continues de t'entrainer pour le plaisir entourés de gens qui en valent la peine.

Ce qui est sur c'est qu'avec un moniteur à 11'35 qui prends le temps de nous filer des conseils et des pistes, on n'a pas finit de progresser, de rigoler et de s'éclater sous l'eau...

 

[trux]

Salut Francine et bienvenue à Deeper Blue!

Parce qu'au MIF Club, on a tendance à privilégier les perfs et la progression plutôt que les podiums.
Et lorsque l'on a le choix entre un weekend enfermé dans une piscine et une sortie mer entre nous, à rêver dans le bleu, et bien... le choix est rapide

Alors si c'est vraiment comme ça, je me demande pourquoi on te voit sur tous les podiums!

... j'ai fais toutes les compétitions AIDA cet hiver en vue du Danemark. J'ai fais 1ère en statique à chaque fois et 2ème en dynamique. J'ai été écarté des sélections parce que j'aurai soi-disant oublié de confirmer mon envie de participer aux championnats par e-mail.:rcard

Ça c'est effectivement assez étrange, et je ne le comprends pas trop. Je n'ai vu nul part qu'on devait se manifester pour la qualification. Pour confirmer la sélection oui, mais j'ai trouve effectivement étrange que tu as été exclue en avance. Très désolé pour toi.

In English:

Because here at the MIF Club, we tend to prefere the performance and the progress, than the winner podiums. And since we always have the choice between a weekend enclosed in a swimming pool, and a sea diving trip with friends, a blue dream, well... the choice is quick

If it is really so, then I wonder why we always see you on all the winner podiums!

... I did all the AIDA competitions this winter, having Denmark in view. I took the 1st place in statics each time, and 2nd in dynamics. I was removed from the pre-selection, because allegedly we ought to express our wish to participate in the championship by email.:rcard

That's indeed very strange, and I do not quite understand it. I did not see anywhere that we had to demand for the qualification. I know that confirming the participation after being selected was required, but I really find strange that you were excluded in advance. Very sorry for you.

 

[Francine Kreiss]

I'm training in first for the pleasure and share a good moments with friends of my club.
If I made podium it's for can going to the Denmark, but it not suffisant apparently.

Pour la confidence, le dernier c'était à Marseille mais je l'ai zappé pour aller plonger avec un pote


and yes, I was pre-selectionned but I gave my reply for selection by MSN and by phone too, I thought that it was enough...
But it's not a problem, this story it's only to show you that participation at world championship don't depend of only athlete and this performance.

mais je pense que tu seras d'accord avec moi pour constater que des apnéistes avec des perfs au-dessus de la "normale" il en existe partout mais beaucoup ne ressentent pas le besoin d'aller faire chauffer leurs poumons en compétition

 

[hteas]

I realize this thread is fairly old, and got rather heated, but have a question that has been left dangling.

Did anyone accept Stephane's invitation to go and observe his training?

If so, could they let us know what they saw and did?

Very curious to know

 

[Kars]

I would love to drop by, and I'm happy Stephan has made his invitation and I will try to see if I can join one or a few sessions, I'm sure I can learn a lot besides learning some more French Maybe in early of next year when I'll have my new job. I surely will report my experience here!

 

[titan]

Stepnha looks like he has a cool spearfishing and freedive group he could weekend trips direct more to international clients having vacations over south France, the club has some pretty cool photos I would it has a good spirit probably much like the one of apnea academy?!?!?!

 

[hteas]

Anyone ever follow up with a visit to Stephane?

Sust hoping to hear something about his apparently amazing training techniques.

 

[Kars]

I was not able to go on vacation in 2009, hope this year will yield better luck.

 

[hteas]

Kars,

Sorry to hear you couldn't go. Hope you are able to take up his offer one of these days.

I just can't believe that no one else wants to find out how Stephane did such an increadible static. If I were less than a gazillion miles from France I'd have gone immediately, while his offer was still fresh.

Howard