OMER Alluminium

[rigdvr]

Originally posted by Murat
How sweet ! ! ! Then you have "cm" accurate gun with knock down power with incredible range, sensitive trigger, quality craftment.... Here you go! ! ! new competitor in bluewater hunting spearguns.

I already know of several guns that fit this description. They are made by the likes of Daryl Wong, Bill Kitto, Scott Merlo, and Jay Riffe to name a few.

Im NOT saying that a euro gun cant be a competent bluewater gun but I am saying that I wouldnt expect the same power or accuracy at that increased power level with what you are describing as with some of these guns with larger shafts(penetration at range), ballasting(offsetting recoil common with increased power), and enclosed tracks(eliminating shaft whip that comes with increased power.

Many great fish have been taken in the blue with RA's especially but I find them a little more suited to the blue than an Omer. In fact if I could have one and ONLY one gun for everything it would probably be an RA(sorry Sven). Luckily I am able to have a few guns for different situations. A punter could probably kick a decent field goal but why not let the placekicker do that?

Straightforward enough?

 

[Murat]

Originally posted by rigdvr
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Straightforward enough?

wOOOAAAA. I never thought "sure..." has mean that much.
What i shortcut word ! ! ! Hehehe.....

Anyway you are right about the guns you mentioned are more suitable for blue ocean. They uses many bands with thick shafts enclosed tracks. That makes them more accurate at further range. But when i was mentioning bluewater hunting i did not mention pacific or atlantic, Its just med sea. I talked with euro hunter mind. In here if you can find a boat and get offshore about 25-30 meter water thats bluwater hunting. And bigest game fish here ( at least catches here and other european countries shows it) is AJ. I guess only spanish guys are lucky to do real bluewater stuff coz they have connection to ocean (Gilbatar Pass). There is only 1 guy whoes hunting Tuna. They are between 50-60 kg and only he knows the place. As you see when i am saying bluwater hunting i did not mention US style. I don't know any diver who see giant tuna or marlin here.

But on the other hand if i have an easy access to wong guns i glad to buy new enclosed or semi enclosed track carbon hyrid. I consider it bluwater gun for here.

 

[Murat]

When i said new competitor in bluewater hunting. It was amoung the euro gun. I did not thought this will mean challange to treetrunks since we are talking about euroguns here

 

[Murat]

Anyway i have a problem. May be some of you knows the solution.

I bought T20 75cm few days ago for sargo hunting. I deployed the shaft guide to where the wishbone sits. Between 19-23 cm from the front end of the barell (not from the muzzle). But wishbone still hits the shaft guide and made heavy scratch. Actually scratch is not the problem. When it bump the sahft guide it makes too much noise scare off the target and disturb shaft travel as well. What can i do to fix that problem? Where should i deploy the shaft guide?

 

[ivan]

Originally posted by rigdvr

. In fact if I could have one and ONLY one gun for everything it would probably be an RA(sorry Sven).

hi

That just made my day

cheers

 

[shaneshac]

Take the shaft guide off

A 75 does not need one

 

[Murat]

I thought its better with shaft guide. I will give it a few more try. May be i can find the problem, if not i can take it out.

 

[Adrian]

Shane,
thanks for the info on comparing Omer's Alluminum with the Cressi Comanche. I was looking at the latter in a shop, but it wasn't the carbon version. Do you rekon there's a big difference in performance between the normal and the carbon versions?

Adrian

 

[Murat]

Hi Adrian,

Alluminium commanche is heavier than carbon and HAS NOT rail.
My 100 cm carbon alluminium lighter and quicker than 75cm T20.


Well gota go ! ! ! I will wake up for spearing about 5 hours later.:t

 

[shaneshac]

Adrian I have used the Aluminium Comanche 90 and can say that it is a great gun. Especially for the price difference. I powered this gun up with shorter than normal G20 bands and noticed no loss of accuracy. I suppose the longer models are the same. I just read a test report in a spanish mag and they tested the 110 Alu. It got a great review. I say go for it and use the saved cash for something else.

My 0.02

Shane

 

[Adrian]

Shane & Murat,
Gracias amigos! I'm asking all these questions because I'm in the process of getting my spearing licence. I've just done the medical checkup and now I can finish everything on Monday. The doctor was great as he is a specialist in hyperbaric and subacuatic medicine and did a thorogh exam from a freediver's point of view. He has actually written a book on freediving and was the captain of the Spanish team in the first competitions in Nice. I'll probably end up getting a Commanche 90 as a middle range gun as besides sargos there are also "espets" - Mediterranean "barracuda" and sea bass that suprised me the other day by coming up to a meter before dashing away. They were nice sized, at least 50cm.

Adrian

 

[shaneshac]

No problem. Good luck with those sea bass. September and october are great months as big females come close to shore.
Take care that they don't have an overlarge belly as those still have to spawn.

 

[Adrian]

Good tip, I don't want to shoot just anything that moves, only what I'll eat.

Adrian

 

[shaneshac]

Now thats a sea bass. The biggest one I have seen. Caught on Rod and Reel in Spain. One day

I shot one this big last winter and the shaft never came through the other side. The fish shaft ripped out of the flesh when it swam away.

 

[shaneshac]

Ivan here is a Corvina as commented last night

 

[Shadowkiller]

Shane: That fish looks very similar to our Jewfish (also known as a Meagre on Fishbase). Max size is about 50kg here. How about in the Med?

 

[shaneshac]

Check this one out. 57 kilos worth of fish.

Are they related to Daga salmon and mulloway and white sea bass?

 

[tecdave]

Shane,
how big is the Sea Bass in that pic, it is HUGE!!
The British record is about 18lb, how big do they grow??

The best I've had is 8.5lb and I thought that was big.:duh

What's your biggest?

 

[Shadowkiller]

Originally posted by shaneshac
Are they related to Daga salmon and mulloway and white sea bass?

Yep! Like the Mulloway the Daga Salmon is known as Argyrosomus japonicus

The white sea bass is Argyrosomus hololepidotus

 

[ivan]

hi

Yeah Shane they are some monster fish, wonder how they would taste at that size.

What happened to our posts the other night.

cheers