Are you subnormal or just held your breath a bit too long?
Jetfins are great for scuba. The market knows this, hence their success. They have a rich history and unmatched credentials way beyond the weekend warrior. I get it, you think your blades make you look real sexy. How is this an industry problem?
Nothing has yet outperformed those thigh and calf mounted hydrofoil twin blade from the mid 1940`s if I remember right. Of course they could be updated, forever a 1 trick pony. Lets see how a long fin of carbon/grp outperforms a lump of indestructible rubber with great ability for thrust, durability and maneuverability. Do not assume for one minute that a drysuit wearing cold water boat/tech diver with anything other than a sleek and sexy profile will fare better in a pair of blades/footpockets, because that is 100% grass fed plain and simple. You know this, I know this, so how exactly is this an industry problem with competition, patent/copyright and as you say "retarded aspirations of bulk participants" who may want, require, perform better in something other. Your opinion is blinkered, elitist, quite frankly repulsive (as I see it)
Don`t like them, take that mono fin off your head and buy something else. How is this an industry problem?
Seriously, have a good read of your above post and if you are lucky you might be able to identify just what prize breathholder would come out and insult a group they may very well wish for should one day they were to bring something a bit different, new/er to the market, for example.
Crikey, "aerospace" you are on wrong site and section, this is the site for goggle eyed, fish footed divers sucking rubber, not propeller beanie hat wearers.Trying to sell something are you?, an updated something maybe? given an overhaul, sexed up in new materials? looking for "retarded" "bulk participants" to buy into a dream of speed and power?The niche/gimmick market is full of this and a cursory view of a website is usually all that is required to separate the wheat from chaff by sheer quantity of prime grass fed BS and self aggrandizing.
Get over yourself with your continuing evolution of "freediving" gear, I am sure many folk practicing freediving would not wish to set themselves apart and at the bottom of a pool/bathtub waiting for an ego stroke for doing it when "look mummy I can hold my breath and swim is the sum total of freediving in reality. I am sure nobody has ever thought that breathhold and water are the "retarded aspirations of bulk participants" for those participants not out trying to fill the freezer. The Badjao and Ama are sure to be in awe of the whole circus. Changes with new materials and manufacturing process/techniques allow for some basic tweaks/changes/improvements in all diving equipment but there is no major game changer here for the mask/fin/snorkel concept and the rest is personal choice and preference.
Pathetic is correct.
There is a hell of a lot of great gear out there. 20 year old "squidfins" are great too.
How is that an industry problem?
LOL , Have a nice day xxxxxx
On a side, I went into a fishing shop after having not been in one for 30 something years recently to get some gear to dick about with. However did I manage to catch fish back then using a rod/reel/line/hook/worm. The crap I walk walked out with, rod/reel/line/hook/worm, paid loads too, all the latest greatest. Caught FA so far after half an hour so went spearing and shot four within a couple hours. Smoked em in ma smoker, beechwood, delicious
bought a new bike having not ridden one in 30 years a couple months back. how did I manage before. This new one that cost a small fortune and has all the bells and whistles imaginable including two wheels and brakes, fantastic. I got it cos it has fat tires and is grey, matches my hair. Its a bike!!!
Got a new car a month ago...
There is really no lack of amazing products in all sectors of industry diving included for all budgets. Its like being a kid in a sweet shop.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimfin
Seriously matey, no matter how I read what appears to be the whining drivel you have written in response to "jetfins are great" I cannot relate to it in any way that is reasonable or rational. It reeks of arrogant ,elitist, ego driven nonsense. Maybe not a response you wanted.
Wow! That was a rant and a half. Hard to understand most of it, but I get the point that you are upset. Jetfins have some very loyal customers.
Maybe I am elitist; but how is that a bad thing, especially when the bar for normal is set to a standard that is 50 years old? Try to imagine Boeing still building the 707 and the competition not trying to make anything better than that. The airlines would not have put up with it and found someone who could do better. That hasn't really happened in the scuba industry. Why is that?
Should the Air Force still be flying F-4s? It was state of the art 50 years ago. Were the creators of the F-22 at the Pentagon and Lockheed simply being elitist to demand something better from the F-22? No! Competition forced them to demand better. It's a situation of excel or perish in that business. That level of competition is missing in the scuba industry. Is this lack of competition because of the customers, the manufacturers, the training agencies, or all the above? Is it something else entirely?
When I talk to divers, it seems many of them can't imagine something any better than what they have. Even after getting slammed and abused by relatively normal and common 2 knot ocean currents on a dive, the situation of diver mobility is perceived to be just fine even though they can't swim any faster than 1.5 knots in a sprint. Why is this situation considered okay? These things don't make sense to me.
Personally, I want something better than the status quo and I've been trying to do something about it. If that makes me elitist, I guess I'm okay with it. I'm not going to change my opinion simply because someone got upset and went on a rant because I don't think Jetfins are the best things ever made. Jetfins hurt my feet and don't perform as well for me as other fins I have available to use.
Before getting overly defensive about Jetfins, diver mobility is not really even a fin issue. Diver mobility is a diver issue. Fins are a part of that, but it is a system level problem. Magic fins that are 100% efficient would not make most divers as mobile as they should be to operate safely and with confidence in the ocean. Before looking at new fins, it is actually more important to tackle the issue of drag, because every pound of drag shed from the diver is a pound of thrust the fins don't need to generate. If a diver doesn't deal with the drag issue first, don't expect better fins to make a huge difference. It will have some impact, but probably not what you'd be expecting.
My latest scuba kit has only 15% the drag of typical recreational scuba kits using the same tank (standard AL80). My estimates for total diver drag are over 40% less than that of the average recreational scuba diver. With this level of drag reduction, the efficiency of the fins I'm using makes a very noticeable difference. With my home-made long fins, I can cruise efficiently at 2 knots. I speed limit at 2.5 knots because my regulator starts free-flowing heavily. My actual physical speed limit is 2.9 knots.
The biggest benefit of all this is that when most divers are tapped out at 1 knot for a long range cruise, my breathing rate is the same as it is when I'm sitting on the bottom not moving at all. If the currents pick up and I need to be able to move quickly, I can do it without burning through my tank supply or building up dangerous levels CO2 in my bloodstream, and my feet never hurt. I prefer this to "normal" diving.
The second benefit is that I can swim with dolphins and other large ocean animals without getting left behind. This is something normal scuba divers don't get to do unless they ditch the tanks and freedive, or just surface swim. (Skip forward to 2 minutes if the "start at time" function isn't working.)
I am elite. But, I have a hard time understanding why this was not made normal a long time ago.
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