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Should AIDA Allow Sambas in Competition?

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Should AIDA Change the Samba Rule?

  • No - it's fine the way it is

    Votes: 25 33.3%
  • Yes - they should allow competitors to attempt to recover under their own power

    Votes: 12 16.0%
  • Yes - they should change it so that any shake at all is classified as a samba

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • Yes - they should attempt to change it so that it is less subjective

    Votes: 36 48.0%

  • Total voters
I think you should be allowed to "look" like crap after a long breath hold. As stated in previous threads a marathon runner is allowed to collapse on the ground after an event as it is recognised that they have physically endured something through the effort. Our rules as they currently stand have both objective "tests" and subjective components. Objectively you need to signal Ok to the judges remove your mask etc in specified time limits and these are easy to verify as you either do them or you don't. The concerns seem much more around the associated subjective elements....you have to do these things without shaking, can't stare blankly while doing it etc. I'm in favour of dropping the subjective elements all together and increasing the objective ones to ensure that the individual is in control but recognising they have put their body through an ordeal as well. As Eric has said often on this topic the objective elements can be easily verified the subjective can not be.
I forgot to add:

The focus currently is more about do people "portray" an unacceptable level of lack of control and therefore DQ when what we should be validating is do they prove an acceptable level of control. This shift in thinking is much clearer and easier to judge. It would remove subjectivity & inconsistency with discussions then focusing on what test/tasks validate an acceptable level of control. People would never leave a comp shaking their heads and not really knowing what rule they had broken in getting a DQ.
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icarus pacific said:
You gotta be shitting me!!

Allowing any sport to condone the blacking out/passing out or momentary incapacitation of the participant is just friggin' nuts! :duh What's next, that competitive skydiving allow non-op parachute landings as long as the guy walks away??

I'm agreeing with the Cliff. Whoda thunk? ;)

boxing, kickboxing, prizefighting, mixed martial arts......??
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