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The Freediver Movie??

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interesting.

I've been reading conflicting reports about J.Cameron's new movie. Some say he's scrapped the Pippin/Mestre idea and he's doing some big-budget-sci-fi thing?

Hope not.
 
And not a bad point, Longfins. And a good questions, that: "Why even bother ?"

Maybe fimmakers are too lazy these days to, um, whatchacallit,
CREATE STORY ? From a scratch ? Instead, they take stories that
life has written, and then sort of photoshop them a a bit to make them match their prejudices, ideology, or, to be fair, their artistic vision ?

That's kind of okay. I'd be happy if documentaries were held to standards of veracity and everything else could run wild. Documetary makers should have their artistic licences ( to put it charitably) revoked. Everybody else - go nuts and prosper.

Only other soution I can think of is to make anything that is not news or documentary be done as a cartoon. Even then, I know people who think THe Simpsons is a reality show. Sigh.
 
Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing the film even though, to use Paul's analogy, it's really just a 'photoshop' of The Big Blue :t
 
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Originally posted by Mr. Streeter
I have heard from a fairly reliable source that the Pipin movie has been scrapped for various reasons.

A little more, please? What exactly lies behind the magic word 'various'?

Chris Engelbrecht, Copenhagen
 
OK!!!!!! Back on track. THE FREEDIVER movie by the way was watched by Martin Stepaneck, Dan Burton, Fred Buyle all of whome said they didnt understand what all the fuss was about.

"Its a good movie... will probably end up being a cult hit" - Dan Burton

There's also a review in Diver Magazine this month.
 
hey alki, how about distributing here some
'beta' copies of the movie?
Just to get a feel of it :D
 
rofl


There are so funny personalities here waiting to make guest appearances JUST at the RIGHT moment!!

In the next freediving movie we should talk with the script guy, just to include some of this characters. I won't give details about what characters (I have at least 4 in mind) because of the lack of humor I've seen lately... I could only receive flames :D

Edit: Oooops while I was posting this, Stephan post was created. I hope he doesn't misunderstand my post hehe
 
Alki,

I never mentioned that many, and myself, felt your acting was the best in the movie. I as well, expecting a B type movie, was surprised by the production quality, in terms of video quality and technical details. So, I do congratulate you on those elements and for attempting and completing a process that I have only dreamed of doing.

Another thread with some reviews of the movie; links to my take:

http://forums.deeperblue.net/showthread.php?postid=457463#post457463

http://forums.deeperblue.net/showthread.php?postid=460356#post460356
 
Gentlemen (and I mean everyone in this discussion)...

I sorely disappointed.

I asked for the thread to be kept on track and it hasn't. As such I have had no choice but to remove all posts off topic. All further communications around signatures and politics are to be taken OUTSIDE this forum and into personal emails or Private Messaging.

People who fail to adhere to this will find themselves subject to a formal warning.
 
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as to movie, when was is expected to be released? and also, will it be available on DVD?
 
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No Wetsuits For Bush

First off - Eric - when you dive in cold water without a wet suit do you pay for it later? I get this sense of a layer over my skin - like a thermal layer of some sort - when I swim in cold water. It enables me to comfortable - even when it is quite cold. I feel it more afterward as the body seems to draw it's resources in and recoup.

Second of all. Sounds like just your standard movie. Oriented around the standard American 'Type A Uber Alles' orientation - wherein one only works harder with what one allready knows.

After all - who wants to watch a movie about intelligent people doing amazing things - not because of inevitably-doomed-dysfunctional-pschological-need (and sex), money or fame - but just because it's interesting. Take alot of danger music to get the audience whipped up for that - maybe a car chase on the way to the dive site - or the freediver sees a guy with his feet set in cement pass him on the way down.

hey - some of you guys seem to be saying american politics arent' the center of the universe...<sob..sniff..noble-buckuperee> Fine.
 
movie ideas

Okayokayokay I gotta a couple script ideas.

Title: 'Seabiscuit' for the college summer movie market - kinda lighten things up. Movie is about a guy who's out with his girlfriend on her daddy's yacht and sets a new freediving record when she accidentally drops her diaphragm over the side.

Title: ? On a more intense note

How about one about an autistic twelve-year-old boy who wants to be a freediver?

The tremendous problems he has communicating this to his family - how he manages to get them all to take advanced diving classes - but they all just go along because the kid has never been interested in anything - they can't afford it – don’t know why they’re doing it – but the kid is happy – he’s going to sleep at night, using the toilet etc. - extremely strung out from years of raising this kid - etc. etc. Family under siege – strained marriage - all that about autism.

Turns out he wants them to be his safety divers - he's got the whole thing built in his head from a film clip or something that he saw (maybe throw in some dolphins along the way – dolphin therapy is a thing) - throws a mask his dad buys him across the room - everyone thinks it's just a fit. (maybe an aida guy figures out it's because it's not low volume - segue into figuring out the whole freediving thing).

AIDA gets involved - probably with some sympathetic character who starts talking with the kids big sister on a bbs or something - possibly emailing/romance segue -starts to understand what's going on with the kid - starts to get involved - interested - brings others on board - etc., but never really or fully comprehending what the deal is until toward the end of the film – but the energy builds and the kid is emerging more and more - subtly - and with him everyone's understanding of what is really going on. The thing would have some very heavy moments - heavy tantrums, damaged marriage, freakouts etc - and the kid gradually emerging as a person etc. etc.

AIDA/freediving crowd are background types with this strange expertise but the kid is kind of a mystery to them - like the ocean but they don't know him - so they make no assumptions - ah well, I'm getting too much into character development.

The whole thing is this synchro between the kid manifesting his wish - the depth - the process - and his emergence and evolution as a person and everyone's understanding - their relationships etc.. You could say alot about the freediving community by making them secondary to the primary plot line - which is about the emergence of this autistic kid's identity - when he surfaces at the end he's got this understated grin and a shine in his eyes.. All the elements and subplots weave together and culminate at the end.

I could write this thing in about a year - James Cameron is not the man to direct it however. A film with this much innate heaviness needs a light touch. You want to keep it just this side of a miracle - just. More of an M. Night Shyamalan thing - but with more laughing.

Just a few thoughts...
 
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See, this is the problem: One of the great attractors of freediving is the danger aspect. I'm sure Luc Besson knew that when he came up with the idea for The Big Blue.

How about this for a freediving flick:
Working title: The Ark.
Scene is near future. A company has build a mile-long luxury ship, Arca, that make up a floating city. During a two year span, the giant ship circles the entire globe, following the summer. The 60.000 inhabitants are comprised of every nationality of the civilised world, living a never ending life in luxury. Unfortunately, tensions rise between the various ethnic groups onboard the densely populated ship.
A young computer programmer of Caucasian ethnicity arrives at Arca to work in the security department as a programmer of surveillance systems. He's a former semi-professional freediver, but quit competitions when a close friend drowned, making him shy and withdrawn. He still yearns for the sensation of the ocean, and using his influence he alters the surveillance systems so he can sneak below decks to a secret military submarine hatch, a deep pool, where he can freedive in sea water when ever he wants.
He meets a young girl of Japanese ethnicity, she is the daughter of the CEO of Arca. She too is shy and withdrawn, being in a constant spotlight, and the two find a mutual understanding. They fall in love. During one of Arca's long time stops, in the Phillipines, they go snorkelling with some of his old freediving buddies, and they encounter a pack of dolphins.
The tensions between the ethnicities escalate, when a mad Caucasian first murders a Hindi, then poisons the water supply to a whole Semitic and Hindi neighbourhood. During the chase for the guilty, lead by Arca's charismatic chief of police, our freediver is caught under decks and mistaken for the terrorist.
Simultaneously, the tensions break into onboard riots and ethnic groups fight ethnic groups. UN forces are called in as support through the sub hatch, but amidst the chaos, the real terrorist plants home made bombs on the bridge and the explosions breaks loose the whole section and kills a vast number of people, including the terrorist. The UN sub mislands in the hatch and further damages Arca, who stops in the middle of the open waters. In the confusion, the freediver escapes and flees to lower decks. Sea water starts flooding into all sections of Arca, drowning many. The ship is sinking. The chief of police is caught in water masses. He almost drowns, but is saved in the nick of time by the freediver diving down and picking him up. They both fight water masses and manages to reach a safe point. Here they team up with other survivers, who are working hard to try and save Arca. The only way is to sail Arca aground on one the Hawaiian islands. Because the bridge no longer exits, no controls are available to fire back up the engines; the only way is to start one engine manually which can fire up the rest. No scuba gear is available, so only the freediver can reach the giant propeller engine on the outside bottom of the ship to activate a panel. He manages this task, but going back he is caught under water unable to escape. He gets lower and lower on oxygen, and eventually he looses consciousness - he drowns. Suddenly, an unseen being swims into the ship, reaches the drowned freediver and manages to push him to a dry ground where he autonomously regains consciousness. The dolphin swims away, without the freediver seeing his savior. As Arca slam lands on Hawaii, the freediver has to fight water masses one last time before the story ends.


Ok, I admit it, it's a work in progress. I suppose only Jim Cameron or Luc Besson would have both the ability and potential interest in such a weird idea. Fondue's idea is a lot easier to realize.

Chris Engelbrecht, Copenhagen
 
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Originally posted by CEngelbrecht
See, this is the problem: One of the great attractors of freediving is the danger aspect.
I totaly disagree!
But one of the great attractions of MOVIES is danger.

Nice touch there on puting "Babylon's tower" on the ark. ;)

I have no idea where you and Fondueset take your inspirations from, but it was very interesting to see 2 examples of what seems to be spontaneous scripts, so different from from eachother.
 
Here's my script.

Possible titles:

"The Bottom of the World"
"Climbing the Deepest Mountain"
"Trenchseekers"

The Story:
(geared towards "Americanism" in the idea that it might appeal to the U.S. audience)

Shown as a flashback in the beginning:
An American biochemistry genius takes up competitive freediving, and although unexceptional from a genetic standpoint, he quickly rises to the top of the freediving world by manipulating his body chemistry with questionable and secret methods. He finds fame and money, but then his secret methods are discovered and he is banned from the sport.

Crushed, he seeks to vindicate his worth.

The movie then begins.

He finds out that a coalition of international deep-ocean companies/associations have organized a deep sea challenge. The challenge is to be the first person to place bare footprints on the bottom of the world; the sand at the bottom of the Mariana trench, at -10500m. The prize is $50,000,000, and the inspiration is that deep ocean diving technology will advance.

Many countries are assembling teams of specialists to attempt the feat.

The French team shows particular promise, with a gorgeous young female scientist and her fiancee being the core of the team. Her fiancee will be the French scuba diver who will attempt the feat, with fluid breathing apparatus. She is the leader of his support team.

The American freediver knows his knowledge of breath-holding and biochemistry could allow him to win this competition. He assembles some friends/partners (ideas are welcome). He believes that fluid breathing to the bottom of the trench would be fatal. He believes it must be done on a fluid breath-hold.

His plan to reach the bottom of the world: a breath-hold dive with polyfluorocarbon resin, lasting for 40 minutes, in a hypothermic state.

The movie then shows the attempts of other countries, the massive media coverage, and build up on the French team. The whole world expects the famous French scuba diver to reach the bottom.

The American freediver, envious of the massive money and know-how of the French team, eventually meets them and is charmed by the gorgeous French girl. He tries to convince her that her fiancee will die by attempting the dive via fluid breathing. The girl and the French team ignore him. The French diver is arrogant and is convinced he will succeed and become famous.

Eventually, the Frenchman attempts to dive to the bottom of the trench with fluid breathing apparatus. He dies in the attempt. His gorgeous wife is crushed. The American freediver consoles her and they fall for each other.

In a huge controversy, she leaves the French team and starts helping the American. His plan was nearly complete, he needed only a few bits of help, and she provides them.

He makes his breath-hold dive to the bottom of the trench successfully (without a wetsuit), in dramatic CGI footage.

I'm open to possible conclusions:
- The movie ends shortly after
- Or, he dies in the attempt
- Or, he meets some semi-intelligent species
- Or, he discovers some sort of ancient artifacts

Personally I would see his dive as basically the end, without any extra stuff happening on the bottom.


Eric Fattah
BC, Canada
 
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