2014 lunocet

noa · May 9, 2014

Ted Ciamillo said:
Hi Guys,

The material for the Pro spring was changed lately to a higher durometer but a different compound. I tested it in the pool only briefly and went right back to work so I didn't see the damage occurring over time. The issue is that the material does not have the elasticity of the original material. I have found a way to get a more robust spring in the durometer I want using the original material. How the material is processed affects the durometer and the robustness and this is what I have tweaked. I will get them out to anyone who has a poorly performing spring. I tested this one really well and it is working great.

Thanks

Thank you for the update. Looking forward to trying out the new spring...

noa · May 9, 2014

Chipswim said:
Wow! It really is a whole new world with the Pro then.

I cannot speak about the classic, but the Pro does indeed have power to it. So the spring material and stiffness have to be designed accordingly.

marginatus · May 9, 2014

Ted Ciamillo said:
Hi Guys,

The material for the Pro spring was changed lately to a higher durometer but a different compound. I tested it in the pool only briefly and went right back to work so I didn't see the damage occurring over time. The issue is that the material does not have the elasticity of the original material. I have found a way to get a more robust spring in the durometer I want using the original material. How the material is processed affects the durometer and the robustness and this is what I have tweaked. I will get them out to anyone who has a poorly performing spring. I tested this one really well and it is working great.

Thanks

Hi Ted, can't wait to try it. It seems that it could use some extra stiffness...
I'm going for a real free diving session tomorrow with it ( open ocean with training float ) I'll see if I can get some footage

Chipswim · May 10, 2014

neurodoc said:
The pro's surface area is much greater, plus the flukes themselves are thicker and stiffer. So, yes, it really does apply more force! Still works great, but for example with my Classic flukes, two pins is all I need for every level of swimming force. With the Pro? all four pins, and I could use more resistance.

Hmmmmmm...... How about a spring swap between these two Doc? Given Ted's post that Might get you going and be revealing! I'm assuming you'd prefer to have the Pro swimming sweet while the Classic waits for the real spring update.

noa · May 10, 2014

I'm getting the feeling that finding the perfect spring is becoming our new holly grail...

Chipswim · May 10, 2014

I've felt dialing in the flex profile has held great promise for some time. That is where we have to go to totally experience the performance already available in the rest of the design.

We are focused in the correct area. Great swimming is just ahead....

marginatus · May 10, 2014

Had some fun today!!
We have seen amazing photos with beautiful subjects so brace yourselfs for these (which are frames from video)

Chipswim · May 10, 2014

BEAUTIFUL !!!........... DETAILS ! M ! .............

That second one being a screen shot... You have some great footage how the fin is behaving. Revealing?

marginatus · May 10, 2014

Chipswim said:
BEAUTIFUL !!!........... DETAILS ! M ! .............

That second one being a screen shot... You have some great footage how the fin is behaving. Revealing?

Thanks, I have been working out so the compliment is motivating

It was an interesting session... it was a shore session so we had to swim to the spot. Being it all new, it was quite an effort but the good thing is that we had ~34m not that far off.
I have lot's of room for improvement in the technique but made some really good progress. the footage is a great learning tool and my buddies also helped correcting some details.

The fin is responsive and fast... On 2 dives I went so fast that had to abort due to equalizing (needed to do it more often) but it was just too much to negotiate in the fist session.

About the footage, yes, it tells a lot. I shot it @ 60 fps and one can see that the fin's tips bend like the cetaceans tails when then dive (I'll insert a frame ). I also noticed I apply more force on the down stroke. lot's of things to improve on my end but will need the new spring too. I might try the zip ties

Apneaddict · May 10, 2014

I used the classic on the softest setting and "modified" it to make it even softer.

I use the pro on the stiffest setting.

It's moving a lot more water and producing lots more thrust.

Two local UWH mermaids last night used a Waterways Model 2 and the Lunocet Pro as the first monofins they've ever used.

They have decent dolphin kicks, but it was the first time they've had their legs fastened together in the water.. Which is weird for everyone.

They LOVED the Pro.

They thought it was very fast and powerful and it ripped their masks off. That's good, considering UWH players wear their masks on the tighter side.

The comfort, portability and cool look factor were just (big) bonuses.

I think it's pretty cool that this can be a device for you to swim 200m, recreational open-water swimming, a first monofin and a travel mono.

Chipswim · May 10, 2014

Now we are really getting somewhere! More experiences like these just ahead for more and more people!

The winglike / life-like movement of the Lunocet's tips is a really cool and functional detail to document in a photo !!

Looks like FUN Marginatus!

Neat that under water hockey has mermaids! ... Another sport I've yet to observe.

I'm thinking AA's Pro spring must not be one of those that just caused the rubber remix but thinking even AA can expect Ted's new one to be an upgrade. I get the impression from Ted's post that he has achieved a new "best so far" spring.

marginatus · May 10, 2014

Chipswim said:
Now we are really getting somewhere! More experiences like these just ahead for more and more people!

The winglike / life-like movement of the Lunocet's tips is a really cool and functional detail to document in a photo !!

Looks like FUN Marginatus!

Neat that under water hockey has mermaids! ... Another sport I've yet to observe.

I'm thinking AA's Pro spring must not be one of those that just caused the rubber remix but thinking even AA can expect Ted's new one to be an upgrade. I get the impression from Ted's post that he has achieved a new "best so far" spring.

Sky was very cloudy today so lighting was not the best... It looks better in the video...
There were dolphins around but too far to see them underwater.

Chipswim · May 10, 2014

Right! Same problem here in Nebraska... Poor lighting conditions not revealing pristine water and abundant sea life ¡

neurodoc · May 11, 2014

Gorgeous images, Marginatus! I'm glad to hear the fin performed well. Looks like a lot of fun, too

PoseidonSv · May 12, 2014

Thanks for info Ted.

Will all who wait for their Lunocet Pro get this modified spring and will it affect and fix the issue of the loose hole for the spring beeing eaten up by the spring movement?

(Soon 3 months of waiting for my lunocet pro)

/Fredrik.

Philip Fennell said:
This is great news. Being patient (but excited) in waiting for my Lunocet Pro will have payed-off as this issue will have been resolved before I receive mine.

Thanks Ted for all your hard work

AquaThylacine · May 12, 2014

Hello From The Antipodes,

I'm curious hear how your Bont Riot's are holding up marginatus
Your photos are fantastic!!!

Regards,

Aqua Thylacine

marginatus · May 12, 2014

AquaThylacine said:
Hello From The Antipodes,

I'm curious hear how your Bont Riot's are holding up marginatus
Your photos are fantastic!!!

Regards,

Aqua Thylacine
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Hi, thanks
mine are Shimano.. Noa has those

noa · May 12, 2014

AquaThylacine said:
Hello From The Antipodes,

I'm curious hear how your Bont Riot's are holding up marginatus
Your photos are fantastic!!!

Regards,

Aqua Thylacine
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Too early to say, but I'm not sure they will hold for super long. Then again, only time will tell. I think that the Bont Vapor plus would be a better long term choice due to their materials.
Having said that, the shoes have been working well so far.

AquaThylacine · May 13, 2014

The morning of May 13 2014 will be etched in my mind as a day of irrepressible euphoria, for the rest of my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Lunocet Pro Fin and Standard Fin just arrived in the post. I'm jumping up and down like a madman lol

My Bont Riot shoes arrive tomorrow ... I'm beside myself !!!!!

Thank you! Thank you so much Ted !!!!!!! You are the MAN !!!!!!

Now the learning begins

... and the carbon fibre crafting of hydrodynamic foot attachments

If anyone wants to meet me on Kona Island, Hawaii ... in January 2015 ... for a "Lunocet Pro Obsessives Symposium," it would be wonderful to meet you all and share our obsession

Chipswim · May 13, 2014

Another one safely home! Can't wait to hear your experiences!

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