Roughly, or a little bit shorter. Exact gun measurement is not in my avail. But more or less that's it.
BTW. Has any of you been looking into the new airgun Salvimar Vintair yet?
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airguns: Sporasub One Air 2012!!!
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Roughly, or a little bit shorter. Exact gun measurement is not in my avail. But more or less that's it.
BTW. Has any of you been looking into the new airgun Salvimar Vintair yet?
Daf, I know that the Airbalete 100 measures 105cm exactly - to put that into perspective, my Gabbiano 90 (with the TRB head) measured ~120+cm.
Off topic, due to the ways Seatec measure their guns and the TRB head, a Gabby 90 is roughly the equivalent of 105cm 'normal' gun. Pretty interesting I thought! No wonder it was hard work up for North Wales!
An 85cm band gun would be roughly 105cm in total length (85cm for barrel, 15cm for the handle and 5cm for the muzzel). So yeah, a 100 pneumatic would be pretty much bang on the length of an 85cm band gun.
I might not track as well as an 85cm band gun though as it a bit wider, at least horizontally.
Re hols and before then, I have no idea what to do. The thought of buying a cheap gun to use for ~6 weeks is really annoying! I might only get to the coast a few times.
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Off topic, due to the ways Seatec measure their guns and the TRB head, a Gabby 90 is roughly the equivalent of 105cm 'normal' gun. Pretty interesting I thought! No wonder it was hard work up for North Wales!
An 85cm band gun would be roughly 105cm in total length (85cm for barrel, 15cm for the handle and 5cm for the muzzel). So yeah, a 100 pneumatic would be pretty much bang on the length of an 85cm band gun.
I might not track as well as an 85cm band gun though as it a bit wider, at least horizontally.
Re hols and before then, I have no idea what to do. The thought of buying a cheap gun to use for ~6 weeks is really annoying! I might only get to the coast a few times.
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I've looked but have not found out any information, I was not aware of the name of the gun but I knew they were developing one.
The same goes for Mares who are meant to be producing a dry barrel gun as well?
Do you have any information to share?
Mares is testing a new gun but it will be a long way to the unveiling: unlike Omer/Sporasub, they're not allowing any leaks, no pun intended.
Salvimar Vintair has a very vintage shape, round barrel, and a handle that recalls the design of the early Stens, old Scubapro and old Asso. No dry kit, but very wide holes on the muzzle for rapid ejection of the water. From what I've heard, the innovatove features of it are in the trigger and power reductor. They don't make it any longer than 85, at the moment...
Some close shots:
Salvimar Vintair has a very vintage shape, round barrel, and a handle that recalls the design of the early Stens, old Scubapro and old Asso. No dry kit, but very wide holes on the muzzle for rapid ejection of the water. From what I've heard, the innovatove features of it are in the trigger and power reductor. They don't make it any longer than 85, at the moment...
Some close shots:
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Injection moulds are expensive and are often recycled with minor changes such as name-plates and finish detail (stippling, frost, gloss or matt surfaces). These parts look identical to the Scubapro "Magnum", but a new style rear cap. Trigger may use a skinny transmission pin as used in "Cyrano" and other guns. The power regulator will probably be the upsteam valve used in the "Magnum", that was different and still is, most guns use downstream valves. The muzzle is new and has inset relief ports in tapered troughs judging by the photos.
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Great news.. we have the new speargun sporasub for test! (not yet delivered in store)
Sporasub One Air 90 – First Look | Pesca Sub - Pesca in Apnea
(sea trial comes early)
Sporasub One Air 90 – First Look | Pesca Sub - Pesca in Apnea
(sea trial comes early)
Awesome! Can't wait for the actual review / sea trial.
If at all possible Ivan, could you post a picture of the gun next to a 'normal' 90cm band gun? It would be good to see how they compare in length.
It would be great to see a video of it in action underwater.
If at all possible Ivan, could you post a picture of the gun next to a 'normal' 90cm band gun? It would be good to see how they compare in length.
It would be great to see a video of it in action underwater.
Although elliptical tanks look cool and are new to those who do not have long memories, I must confess that I find cylindrical tanks better from one important perspective. You can twist them around on the bulkheads when the "O" rings on the bulkheads are seemingly stuck and you don't want to start hitting things with a (soft faced) hammer to move the tank. My pressure assist dismantling technique is even more appropriate for elliptical tanks as it could be the only way to get the gun apart once the "O" rings toughen up on an older gun and everything starts to stick. Twisting the tank around breaks the grip of the "O" rings, I have wrestled the tanks off a large number of guns over the years.
I note that the nose cone molding has changed shape, those struts are gone that created triangular windows on the front bulkhead when looking down from on top. Probably the rear bulkhead has changed too, I think those early front and rear bulkheads were fabricated, not molded, as they seemed to show machining marks if you looked closely at the original photos. The muzzle looks different as well, but more of it may be swallowed up in the nose cone as no relief ports to expose as before. Normally a gun with a tank like this would have met with a terrible accident where it was flattened during delivery by the cavalier workers in the mail system. It will be interesting to see how it copes with the odd dent inflicted by careless owners on the flatter sides.
One advantage should be less expensive tank production as this shape should be simpler to fabricate than the differentially squeezed and stretched hydroformed metal tank on the "Airbalete".
I note that the nose cone molding has changed shape, those struts are gone that created triangular windows on the front bulkhead when looking down from on top. Probably the rear bulkhead has changed too, I think those early front and rear bulkheads were fabricated, not molded, as they seemed to show machining marks if you looked closely at the original photos. The muzzle looks different as well, but more of it may be swallowed up in the nose cone as no relief ports to expose as before. Normally a gun with a tank like this would have met with a terrible accident where it was flattened during delivery by the cavalier workers in the mail system. It will be interesting to see how it copes with the odd dent inflicted by careless owners on the flatter sides.
One advantage should be less expensive tank production as this shape should be simpler to fabricate than the differentially squeezed and stretched hydroformed metal tank on the "Airbalete".
I reckon it is about the size of 70cm band gun judging by the photos on that site - The gun looks amazing on the close ups
(Nice website by the way Ivan! Some interesting reads on there - Google Translator adds the comedy)
(Nice website by the way Ivan! Some interesting reads on there - Google Translator adds the comedy)
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[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XRcEf6uV-hE]YouTube - OMERSUB SPEARFISHING TEST, NEW AIR ONE SPORASUB by Roberto Tiveron[/ame]
Ooo the excitement increases!
Ooo the excitement increases!
^^^^^^^
Ah, you've been trolled mate, that video has been, in various forms, around since last year - it's one of the really early prototypes, hence the gun looking totally bodged. This 'new' video was originally two separate videos but both appear to have been deleted in the last week or so, no idea why Omersub have decided to re-upload it as a single vid.
So... are you going to get one? I still haven't decided between the 80 & 90 - probably siding with the 80. Only another 6+ weeks...
Ah, you've been trolled mate, that video has been, in various forms, around since last year - it's one of the really early prototypes, hence the gun looking totally bodged. This 'new' video was originally two separate videos but both appear to have been deleted in the last week or so, no idea why Omersub have decided to re-upload it as a single vid.
So... are you going to get one? I still haven't decided between the 80 & 90 - probably siding with the 80. Only another 6+ weeks...
Ah devastated, thanks for clarifying though mate! I did think it looked a little different from the pictures on Ivan's website...
I will be getting one but it will be the 100cm one (~85cm band gun - still confused by the measurements on the above pictures though). They do look amazing. I would of thought they would ensure they had the gun ready for the summer season but alas, its not to be!
I will be getting one but it will be the 100cm one (~85cm band gun - still confused by the measurements on the above pictures though). They do look amazing. I would of thought they would ensure they had the gun ready for the summer season but alas, its not to be!
Damn mate, a 100? Thats big old weapon! Are you sure you want to go that big? Thats a 5+ meter range gun...! Do you need that with our viz?
Sporasub have given Ivan a 90 to test IN THE MED... If a 100 was best for general med conditions ( i.e. calm, good viz), surely they wouldnt have given him a 90...? You see where I'm going with this... For popping ~4 lbs Bass in low viz / UK conditions, having a gun that will launch a 6.75mm spear 5+ meters seems a bit overkill...?
Have you seen the newest interview about the One Air on Ivan's blog? The Sporasub guy is saying that a One Air is way more powerful off the shelf than a dry barrel converted Airballete. i.e. You dont need a big gun to get long range / power.
If power is no issue, I recon the shorter the better! You cant hit a fish if you cant get the gun on it in time
Sporasub have given Ivan a 90 to test IN THE MED... If a 100 was best for general med conditions ( i.e. calm, good viz), surely they wouldnt have given him a 90...? You see where I'm going with this... For popping ~4 lbs Bass in low viz / UK conditions, having a gun that will launch a 6.75mm spear 5+ meters seems a bit overkill...?
Have you seen the newest interview about the One Air on Ivan's blog? The Sporasub guy is saying that a One Air is way more powerful off the shelf than a dry barrel converted Airballete. i.e. You dont need a big gun to get long range / power.
If power is no issue, I recon the shorter the better! You cant hit a fish if you cant get the gun on it in time
Damn mate, a 100? Thats big old weapon! Are you sure you want to go that big? Thats a 5+ meter range gun...! Do you need that with our viz?
Sporasub have given Ivan a 90 to test IN THE MED... If a 100 was best for general med conditions ( i.e. calm, good viz), surely they wouldnt have given him a 90...? You see where I'm going with this... For popping ~4 lbs Bass in low viz / UK conditions, having a gun that will launch a 6.75mm spear 5+ meters seems a bit overkill...?
Have you seen the newest interview about the One Air on Ivan's blog? The Sporasub guy is saying that a One Air is way more powerful off the shelf than a dry barrel converted Airballete. i.e. You dont need a big gun to get long range / power.
If power is no issue, I recon the shorter the better! You cant hit a fish if you cant get the gun on it in time
I believe this not true. Both guns with same free shaft would be about the same in performance (same length guns). But free shaft STC x-power is more powerful than regular STC x-power, with the line slide. Maybe there is about 50 % difference in energy.
The One Air comes with a free-shaft as standard though...
I heard that the larger & redesigned air tanks on the One Air gave an improved compression / power ratio compared to the Airbalete?
If an STC X-Power kit on an Airbalete gave better results, that would technically mean that the One Air is actually a step backward in terms of technology for Omersub... I can't imagine for a second that that is true... Why spend 3 years re-designing a product only to make it worse than the original?
I heard that the larger & redesigned air tanks on the One Air gave an improved compression / power ratio compared to the Airbalete?
If an STC X-Power kit on an Airbalete gave better results, that would technically mean that the One Air is actually a step backward in terms of technology for Omersub... I can't imagine for a second that that is true... Why spend 3 years re-designing a product only to make it worse than the original?