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Dorset Spearfishing 2006

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Viz is fine; Plenty of bait fish about and plenty of wrasse - only one bass spotted at a distance. The Jap Weed is growing well and it won't be long before the spring bass will be hiding in it :)

I then came across a trammel net (gill net, long net) I swam along it and found a very dead and cut see trout. Eak another net just behind this one, this had what I first thought was a horse mackerel, but I hadn't seen anything like this before, maybe something from the herring family? Then I found a drowned gillimot - bastard netsmen!

Sea temp 13-14c and I was in for two hours no problem (5mm gloves though!)

I also hear some have headed for Portland - any luck lads?
 
This is a very good time of year for crab and lobster. Crab is plentiful and in good condition (down my way at least). Had nearly a dozen nice crab between me and my dive partner last Sunday plus saw a couple of real goodies out in the open on a night dive last Tuesday ( no bag though :( ). It's good for lobsters from now to Christmas mainly because a lot of weed has died and been stripped off the reefs by rough weather (it's all over the high tide mark at present). This means the holes are much more accessable. However if it gets too rough I find the lobbies move out a bit.

Good hunting.

Dave
 
Good to hear nobody else made the Ian slip!

Went in for a dive today. Swanage area. Steep walk-in/out.

Weather: clear, hard frost at home, warmer at the coast around 9am, fine once the wetsuit was on, water still pretty warm - in for 2 or 3 hours. Lot's of people sitting outside a pub when I left around 2.30pm - it felt like Summer. V. light breeze.

Water: flat as a mill pond, v. slight churn later.

Viz: 1m-5m, always milky ... surprisingly colourful flora in places though, nice.

Fish taken: 2x Bass, 47cm & 53cm

Fish seen: 4 other large bass. 3 travelling together, encountered twice (or 6 large bass) -- of which one was huge. A few small pollock. A shoal of small mullet from tiny up to big mackeral size.

Tides: Full moon today, a very long, (double) low tide in the middle of the day.


Encountered the first bass after swimming out for ~20 mins, as I slowly ascended a heavily weeded ramp. A shoal of bait fish swam above & in front of me in shallow water at the top of the ramp (in, perhaps, only 3 feet of water). The bass was in pursuit. I saw it emerge, it saw me, "hip shot". Hit just behind the gill plate low & up through the spine & out the back of the body.

Later swam to the edge of a gap about the size of a small freezer between rocks & weeds and paused briefly before entering. 3 v. large bass swam towards me & stopped in the gap about 2-3 feet in front of my barrel, I focused on the huge one in the middle. At such close range, in such a confined space, you'd think it would be impossible to miss with a huge fish right in front of the barrel & 2 either side of it. But as soon as it saw me, it stopped and I knew what would happen. As soon as I pulled the trigger they were all gone. It was probably in just 3-5 feet of water & only 10 feet from the rocky shore.

Swam a little further, another large size bass swam towards me in a large but shallow, weedy clearing among the rocks. We looked at each other, I knew the score, I fired, the spear went where it was aimed but the fish just vanished.

Swam out of the rocks, into the open but paused to let my eyes adjust. I could just make out an underwater pinnacle at the limits of visiblity. I thought I'd wait a few seconds here and within maybe 20 secs, 3 bass (looked like the same ones as before - the size of biggest bass reminded me of large salmon) swam into the deep, clear area between me and the pinnacle. It was a long shot but I took time to aim at which point they saw me, by the time the spear reached them they were gone. The water here was deep but the fish were only about 4 -8 feet below the surface.

Decided to call it a day and swam in. Paused to pull my float & then noticed an odd "electric blue" flash about 10 or 12" long in some weeds. At first, I thought I imagined it at but discounted that thought. Then, assumed it was just the back of some weed - but the weed was very brown all over. Decided to take a closer look. As I passed over the weed a big silver shape faced me, just floating mid-water-- another big bass looking at me. I figured we'd do the same thing as usual but I was careful to wait until the gun was full on the head this time, rather than the body. I hit it right in the head in the gill plate & out just under the other eye. Again, the depth of water was only maybe 4-6 feet.

I found watching the bait fish helpful. They'd usually swim by and then come back & hang around (perhaps they thought I offered some protection from predators, or were just checking things out). However, each time they did not turn back, I found a bass almost immediately afterwards swimming behind them ... they were being pursued.

Anglers: the bait fish were like small shiney blue minnows, a little fatter & shorter than sandeels. All the fish seen were easily within casting distance from the shore if you are a good rock hopper. I tried a few casts with a 13cm blue, jointed Conrad lure with 2 big treble hooks but it snagged weed too easily; something less snag prone would have been better (popper/Edison eel/gel/small minnow lure?).

(Tomorrow looks promising too)
 
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Ah Bryn great day yesterday thanks,
And you were right the scallops were poisonous the oysters were bitter and the flat fish was off.
Cheers mate be back down soon.
rofl rofl rofl rofl
 
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Dived Eype yesterday Viz was quite good for a while then started to get murky. Never dived here before looked really fishy but I didnt see one edible fish or crab etc. Tide was going out perhaps it would have been better on incoming tide, What do you think ? As Almost and Podge said in the Cornwall Forum got to get more experience and the only way is to get in and do it.
 
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Finally managed a dive on yesterday after a long break.Vis wasn't as good as hoped but still managed some shellfish and Rowan bagged a nice 4lb ish plaice.

Just nice to get wet again.Met two other spearo's with a small rib who tried the same area.One did mention this forum so nice to see tthe network growing.
 
I knows where you was! As I swam back in some bloke on the shore who was digging for Ragworm came over and said " that was quick.." I had been out for 3 hours so I was quite surprised by that! I gets back to the car and who's dirty silver thing is parked next to me! I wrote Bryn was ere on your window but only in fish slime!

Nice plaice!:)
 
I did see your chariot and was tempted to write Ola!! on it but resisted.Didn't see the writing and had the car valeted today so no fish slime.

Shame the plaice wasn't mine and he lost a larger one as well....he did see another fish on the bottom which when he described it sounded like a small monkfish!!! He has gone to look at some pictures to see if he can ID it.

I don't like diving there too often as i worry about it being overfished.What are your thoughts..
 
Yeah the old BSA ( Hung over morning after dive crew ) kind of wiped the place out the other day with one guy taking something like 18 flatfish.. Why the hell would you want 18 flattys if not to sell?

I have chosen to fish different ground in that area and that seems to be paying off well with a good catch and haul.

I think that the place can only support so many top predators in a month and we might be pushing it.. Only one thing to do and thats deeper and further out! Or just keep fishing the west side of the island :) Slime you later. B
 
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regarding "[I found watching the bait fish helpful. They'd usually swim by and then come back & hang around (perhaps they thought I offered some protection from predators, or were just checking things out). However, each time they did not turn back, I found a bass almost immediately afterwards swimming behind them ... they were being pursued".

I have tried following and watching bait fish expecting a nice big bass following them so many times with no success, it's great to hear it works sometimes!
 
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Rowan is a certified fish magnet...but he does know how to hunt and gather under water!
I'm Feeling jealous boys:(!!!!!
Then again...I do have a brace:D in the larder today!
Will be back in water soon though.
 
Went to Tilly Whim which was a bit too choppy so tried Kimmeridge, unfortunately could not even see the end of my arm let alone the speargun in the water so a very disappointing day! Spent last weekend back in my old home town in Guernsey and had probably the best vis I have had in UK waters.
Whats the vis like Portland way at the moment?
 
Hi Steve, (plaice slayer) it was nice to see you last week but take a look here.

[ame="http://forums.deeperblue.net/showthread.php?t=68289"]Holiday Guernsey 2007[/ame]
 
In regards to the bait fish theory,i too have always thought that they'd attract the bass but no joy,until a couple of days ago i sank down in real shallow water on the weed/sand line under a big shaol of bait fish and lo and behold a group of bass came patroling by and i nailed one.....result,but the first time ever....i've also never seen bass actively hunting or attacking prey...has anyone else?.i've seen pollock shoot up and take bait fish and actually leap out the water...........which was nice.
Also,while im prattling on....does anyone see many Gurnards?.....i saw my first one the other day but it looked so pretty i left it be,plus he looked asleep so i thought i'd spare him the rudest of awakenings
 
A couple of weeks back i saw a school of bait fish bolting out of the shite viz at me followed by an ok sized bass. I took a relex shot and nailed him only to see a monster bass following behind him. It was quite funny to see his actions as he saw me and paniced!! Isn't hindsight wonderfull?

I have to admit though, i do sometimes spend as long as possible hiding in the kelp watching the baitfish above me hoping. Never usually works but they are beautifull to watch!

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