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Guernsey 2013

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Does anyone happen to know any bass spots in herm they're willing to give away, I've been a few times to different places but can only seem to find mullet.
 
It is no different than over here, string weed in shallow water or edge of tide in deeper water, kelp gullies etc.
Bear in mind some of the worlds fastest tides work around the north of Herm!!

Did you know that during the spearfishing competition era in Guernsey ( 70s - mid 80s) The Herm events were possibly the straw that broke the camels back!
Some divers had to make two or even three trips up the beach to carry the catch to the weigh ins. The terrible waste of fish was obvious & even in those days was seen as pretty bad! The event had lots of bad publicity & I think was the beginning of the end for Guernsey competition spearfishing.
All of the west coast has lots of great bass fishing especially on a low spring tide.
The North West tip is probably the most fishy spot in the bailiwick but also the most dangerous to dive!!!
I would only recommend diving from a boat with a dedicated & observant boatman around that area.
 
This morning at an undisclosed location I hit the jackpot, I finally got my eye in with these flatfish and now have a patch were I spotted 30+ turbot! I couldn't believe it, I was obviously very excited, only problem is they're tiny, the biggest I saw was about the size of my palm. I still think this is promising in the hope I can go back there in a few months only to find them bigger and juicier. On the other hand I am afraid I may have scared the larger ones off today. I don't think I am that noisy but are turbot as sensitive to noise as bass? Quite a few of the little turbot I saw, I spotted whilst they were swimming, at the risk of sounding like a total noob I hadn't realised they swim that much, so is it likely I had been disturbing everything? My other tactic today was to swim along the bottom trailing my hand and spear along the sea bed to purposely disturb surrounding turbot would this have disturbed the larger turbot too?
 
Nice dive with Seaweed today and now one Oceanic shadow mask on order, put it on, no leaks, no nonsense, loads of suction on the face and didn't move. Most comfortable mask I've tried..

I brought one of these masks and have never been able to use it due to constant fogging. I've tried everything conceivable to fix it but no luck.

Be interested to hear how get on.
 
Are you sure the fish are turbot?
Juvenile flatfish are pretty difficult to identify but they could well be small turbot!
Whatever they are it is a good sign ... this is the best flatfish year for many a year by far!!
We have 'rod caught' plaice from the boat & some guys are catching from the shore, I have speared 11 eating sized plaice in the last few weeks & the fishmongers are full of locale flatfish too.
 
I brought one of these masks and have never been able to use it due to constant fogging. I've tried everything conceivable to fix it but no luck.

Be interested to hear how get on.

Bad batch perhaps?

I use one and have never had a problem. Great mask in my opinion.
 
Bad batch perhaps?

I use one and have never had a problem. Great mask in my opinion.

Hmmm... I read a few reviews online, some people saying its the best mask ever, some going crazy about the fogging - seem to be about 50 / 50. Maybe I should persevere with it? It's a lovely looking and fitting mask.

I had exactly the same problem with my Omer Alien mask - again, constant fogging so I've never worn it. I've tried toothpaste, Fairy, shampoo, alcohol gel.

Am I doing something wrong or is it just bad luck?
 
I get a tiny bit of fogging when I enter the water and the temperature differences sort themselves out. I just let a little water in, swill it about to clear the fog and then it's spot on for the rest of the dive.
 
I know im stateing the basics but are you spitting in your mask just befor you put it on and rubbing it round then rinse and put stright on ?try again with some different tooth paste if not can i have it ?try some mr muscle ! But do it quick n wash it loads after.
 
Thanks Scallywag, I'll try that next time (will take my old mask with me just in case ;) )

I am spitting in it Ian - thanks for the Mr. Muscle tip, I'll try that - if it's still rubbish, you're more than welcome to it!
 
Mart are your flatties all being bagged at night? Had a plaice 2 weeks ago during the day, but thinking i need to get down my favoroute sand/gravel patch next week on the low at night with my snorkel set to "rave" mode and a couple of decent torches. Very jealous.
 
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Fro, the biggest plaice that i have had were day caught on the edge of tide.
 

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All in the day mate (not been night diving this year) & all from two spots.
Only too happy to say where via pm but most guys know where I go anyway.
 
Broseidon have you tried the lighter technique on the tempered glass. I know it sounds a little extreme but I promise it works a treat. Look it up online but as far as I understand in principle you burn off the residue on the inside of the glass often left after its manufacture. I have done this with problem masks and they have been never fogged since....goes without saying but just be careful! Ha
 
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Well spearing flatfish can be very easy on occasions as you can occasionally see them just lying on top of the sand or gravel but more often than not they are buried with just a tiny piece of body or fin showing.
I guess the more you spot the easier it becomes however to start with you need to be in the right area & at the right sate of tide.
As jonny has already pointed out the edge of tide runs are obvious hot spots as are gravel patches amongst areas of flat sand, in the lea of reefs & just under the kelp alongside a boulder in the sand.
It can take years to learn the good spots & even then you need to remember the state of tide, weather conditions & time of day if you want to be a flatfish king... of course not every one can have a suitable mind & aptitude to be as successful as OMD ... if anyone!
However this is the best time of year & there does seem to be a few more around than there has been recently so here are a few tips....
The calmer & more settled the weather the better, flatfish do not like ground swell & will not come in close to shore if there is a swell.
Go on a low tide, big spring tides are the best as the fish can be found in shallow water & even be spotted for the surface!
Personally I don't load my gun as I never shoot flatfish, I hand spear them with my unloaded gun & immediately put my hand under the fish to ensure it does not rip off!!
Be warned sole are very strong & will escape & die from their injuries if you let them get off the spear.
Big plaice are pretty easy to spear through the head & subdue but smaller plaice can go crazy & rip off too.
Always string the fish before you take the spear out, that is why you don't load the gun!
Flatfish are very easy targets at night time, there is no sport in taking flatfish at night so just take what you need to eat yourself.
My best advice is to go spearfishing at every opportunity over the low tide & study every suspicious lump very carefully...you will soon stat to realise just how well they can camouflage themselves.
 
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Fantastic! Thanks very much Foxfish thats some solid advice, I will certainly be taking it onboard when I head out
 
I brought one of these masks and have never been able to use it due to constant fogging. I've tried everything conceivable to fix it but no luck.

Be interested to hear how get on.


I've never had issues with fogging on any mask (and ive tried a few) but my routine with a new mask is always do the tooth paste job once

Then every time I dive I clean lens with Sea drops anti fog at home, then when entering water spit and quick thumb rub, rinse then with sea water

This may be OTT but I'll be doing this with the oceanic and will let you know how it goes....



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