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Live from Egypt 2006

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It is such an anti climax to be here.

I went to the dynamic pool today along with the others and I couldn't believe it. This is what we are supposed to compete in at the world championship? The pinnacle of freediving events this year? The pool deserves a separate discipline, a separate ranking list. It's a joke, and a bad one at that. BennyB and larsemis has already described it well, I just needed to vent my frustration here.

At the meeting tonight some of us asked the jury to reconsider giving this pool the blue stamp for an AIDA competition (and not just any AIDA competition...). Then Yehia pulled a new 50m pool out of his sleeve (where was this pool when he planned the event?), which the jury will go look at tomorrow, so no decisions yet. And no proper preparation for the athletes yet.

This is a very divisive issue - some are pragmatic and say "let's make the most of it, at least the bad conditions are equal for all". That's a nice, positive attitude. Others feel that a line has been crossed and minimum standards been violated, even if they are not in the regulations - "we should not sanction this by going ahead with the dynamic competition, as if this pool and the absolute lack of planning for it is okay". People have different reasons for joining one or the other position - some go by principles and some go by strategy, as a cancellation could really shift the final placement of the teams. Clearly I am not with the strategy-minded - my team would gain a lot in dynamic - but we need to draw the line.

We'll see what happens tomorrow. Please don't think that we don't want to update you, it's just that the internet connection here is so unreliable.
 
Sorry to hear about the pool and the messup with it, Sorry for you Benny B aint fun so see good money be ruined like that.

Here is all the results from the czech page, I hope someone can fill in the blanks about the cpl of dives, *, that there aint no coments about yet !

1.Johansen Eva Tommerup DEN 10m OK
2.Hansen Britt Moller DEN 25m OK
3.Dordevic Marco SCG 30m OK
4.Pantazi Ariana CYP 35m OK
5.Arippol Karen BRA 40m OK
6.Subutin Darija SCG 40m OK
7.Kojic Uros SCG 41m -7b
8.Yoneda Jill CAN 42m OK
9.Sawas Sawa CYP 43m -7b

10.Schwann Helene FRA 43m OK
11.Saari Susanna FIN 45m OK
12.Money Timothy GBR 47m BO
13.Balanou Panagiota GRE 47m BO
14.Garner Helen RSA 48m OK
15.Morgan David Rhys GBR 50m OK
16.Nicola Roderick NZE 51m OK
17.Eriksen Maria Livbjerg DEN 52m OK
18.Gautier Julie FRA 55m OK
19.Luis Gonzaga Turrent Rueda MEX 55m BO

20.Mikhailovski Matej SLO 56m OK
21.Arippol Derick BRA 60m BO
22.Debuissy Caroline FRA 60m OK
23.Howe Juliana USA 60m BO
24.Joki Antero FIN 61m OK
25.Hirai Misuzu JPN 61m OK

* 26. Hidalgo Lorenzo VEN 61m
* 27. Del Duca Antonio VEN 62m

28. Hartus Mark GBR 65m 65m OK
29.Weine Gusstavson SWE 65m OK

30.Bill Stromberg SWE 66m OK
31.Petr Vala CZE 70m OK
32.Avseenko Natalia RUS 70m OK
33.Chatziaslan Dimitris GRE 71m OK
34.Paganelli Linda ITA 72m OK
35.Kinnunen Timo FIN 80m OK
36.Pedersen Peter DEN 82m OK
37.Winram William CAN 84m OK

Cheers
 
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Tim Money and Derrick Arripol get to dive again on Saturday -both BOd and protested following a f*** up as the organiser had decided to use cheap, light key ring type carabiners to sink the tags which then got tangled on their lanyards. Tim dragged his all the way up to the surface.... Apparently the carabiners on the tags today will be heavier so they won't bounce around on the bottom and catch in the lanyards

At this stage, someone should say a HUGE thanks to the jury (Grant Graves, Dimitri Vassilakis, Gaby Contreras, Ute Gessman and Chris Engelbrecht), Kirk Krack and a load of other people who are working their bits off to make this happen - big hand to them all and lots of beers on the last night no doubt.

Apparently the TV yesterday was a success and it was televised live - but no one has been able to tell us where

Watch this space for more news...

Sam
 
all these mess ups that are being reported suggest that there is a break down in the system not just with the organiser. I'm no expert on freediving, but in other sports (say soccer for example) FIFA will final inspect and "sign off" that the hosting country is ready. I would expect AIDA to do the same right? so in case organisers mess up (in light of what they are supposed to do as per their commitment with AIDA) it is detected and corrected at least some time in advance and not during the world cup..pardon my limited kowledge about freediving competitions but from organizing an event standpoint wouldnt that make sense to you? To me AIDA is to blame as much as the organiser.
Good luck to all those competing and try to keep your spirits up...
cheers
 
The Frenchies are In! Nery is in the house with some fresh blood Bourc'His, Maldamé. On the girl side some new faces as well but 43m 55m and 60m.
Go Frenchies!!!
Nico Danan
 
Marwan makes a very good point. Where was AIDA insternational to sign of the final ok for this competition.
I can not believe that any decent AIDA representative would have signed of such a joke of a pool. I thought there where some regulations about minimum depth/length etc somewhere (i remember having seen it somewhere)
I can understand little things going wrong at the last moment. Most competition have some sort of ltlle thing , but something big and basic like a good pool and at a World Championship ?????

Bill , can you comment on this please as AIDA president.
 
glennv said:
Marwan makes a very good point. Where was AIDA insternational to sign of the final ok for this competition.
I can not believe that any decent AIDA representative would have signed of such a joke of a pool. I thought there where some regulations about minimum depth/length etc somewhere (i remember having seen it somewhere)
I can understand little things going wrong at the last moment. Most competition have some sort of ltlle thing , but something big and basic like a good pool and at a World Championship ?????

Bill , can you comment on this please as AIDA president.

Bill is in Egypt competing with the Swedish team so it might be difficult for him to reply.

AIDA has regulations for the pool but I am not 100% sure what they dictate - I remember being mentioned that the pool has to be of "Olympic standards" or something along those lines - 25m and 50m pools of decent depth (I learned that when we were thinking of having a DNF record done in my pool at home which is 11m long rofl )

I too believe that AIDA Int. shares part of the blame for the problems in the organisation but I do not think now is the time for pointing fingers and assigning blame... the reports I am getting is that everybody from AIDA that is down in Egypt are busting their as#es trying to make this thing work - so they deserve a big thank you from all of us that care about this competition (and a round of beers on the last day - as the guys above said)

Cheers Stavros
 
Marwan said:
I'm no expert on freediving, but in other sports (say soccer for example) FIFA will final inspect and "sign off" that the hosting country is ready. I would expect AIDA to do the same right?

Comparing AIDA International to FIFA is a good joke. I mean, just compare the money these two organizations have...

Right now, what is most important is to save the competition. Later we can talk about how these things can be avoided in the future.
 
Any news from today's competition anyone? Just to break all the complaining :-(... even if it is substantiated. It should already be running for a few hours (I mean the competition).

Today we will lack Stavros' almost live comments from yesterday! Thank you for this Stavros.
 
panos, im not comparing AIDA to FIFA im merely trying to make a point with regards to the supervisory/overlooking role of the governing body in a particular sport when you organize major events..
again its not like they are going to tour the country and inspect stadiums like soccer, maybe easier said than done, i wouldnt know. again im talking about process and standards
cheers
 
DAY TWO (start list is in order of performance eg: first one is first to dive) Dec 8, 2006
NAME NATION GENDER AP AP
MAMI Weinareg ERIF16m
GULLUAMIN Mariana Espinoza MEXF25m
GEBREZGIARHER Awat Abraham ERIM31m
LOPEZ Alejandra MEXF38m
MARTIN Alfredo Roen ESPM40m
GIGANDET Bruno SUIM40m
LARSSON Isabelle SWEF41m 41m OK (from above post)
PHILIP Olivia K GBRF42m
SURYAKOVA Loga RUSF42m
SKOTIDA Phoebe GBRF43m 43m OK
KEDENBURG Katja GBRF46m
KITCHEN-WHEELER Anne-Marie GBRF47m
FRAGOULI Natassa GREF47m 47m OK (NR)
ROMERO PESTANO Carlos ESPM50m
AKIMOV Sergey RUSM50m
BALIC Iru VENF51m
WULFF Ulrich GERM53m
MALARA Mattia ITAF55m
KRISTOFFERSEN Elizabeth NORF55m
HERNANDEZ Miguelangel VENM57m
PASCAL Brent CANM60m
HAUG Oliver GERM60m
SCHRAPPE Carolina BRAF61m 0 BO
IATROU Manos GREM 61m 61m OK
GUERRY Nicolas SUIM61m
SHUN Oshima JPNM62m
OBINO Chiara ITAF63m
GUELDNER Andreas GERM65m
BOURCHIA Morgan FRAM66m
PER Vestin SWEM68m
ZLATUSKA Petr CZEM70m
POMPE Anne Liie SWEF70m
CRUICKSHANK Mandy-Rae CANF75m
DE MOLA Giacomo ITAM77m
TOMINAGA Naoyiki JPNM80m
SHINOMIYA Ryuzo JPNM82m
NERY Guilaume FRAM88m

Sorry thats all I got till now
more in a while
Stavros
 
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Hello, I have heard rumuors about an accident at the WC. Some swedish guy who has been training alone???. Can any of you confirm this or the opposite???. Really hope that the story isn't true....:confused:
 
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