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News from the 2005 AIDA Pool?
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I invite for seeing photos from Renens:
http://www.freediving.com.pl/galeria.php?dzial=imprezy&sub_dir=2005_08_24_-_27_Renens_MS
http://www.freediving.com.pl/galeria.php?dzial=imprezy&sub_dir=2005_08_24_-_27_Renens_MS
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Wow amazing comp.
Incredible performances, big congrats to all, specially Natalia, Alexey and Sam Still. Natalia has totally blitzed the old records, and in competition. I'm thinking Mandy definitely has some serious competition in the constant. I was doing longer statics then Sam in the last Cyprus, amazing someone can improve 3minutes+ in less then 1 year ?!
Alexey's results are scary, just 18 years old, not exactly a peak age for freediving, he would have a greater potential for improvement then any of the other top freedivers. Imagine what he will be like 1-2years from now, he could be the new Martin.
Does anybody know what the story is with Tanya Streeters "National Record" ?
Doesn't make any sense as she didn't qualify. Did they open the pool up for National Record attempts like they did in Canada or something ?
Cheers,
Wal
Incredible performances, big congrats to all, specially Natalia, Alexey and Sam Still. Natalia has totally blitzed the old records, and in competition. I'm thinking Mandy definitely has some serious competition in the constant. I was doing longer statics then Sam in the last Cyprus, amazing someone can improve 3minutes+ in less then 1 year ?!
Alexey's results are scary, just 18 years old, not exactly a peak age for freediving, he would have a greater potential for improvement then any of the other top freedivers. Imagine what he will be like 1-2years from now, he could be the new Martin.
Does anybody know what the story is with Tanya Streeters "National Record" ?
Doesn't make any sense as she didn't qualify. Did they open the pool up for National Record attempts like they did in Canada or something ?
Cheers,
Wal
Walrus,
For each event (qualifying, finals), there was an "opener start", where people that are not in the actual competition would do performances. I guess this was to verify that safety, judges, cameras etc are rolling and ok. Sort of a "sound check" if you will.
The athletes that had not signed up for actual competition in a dicipline or had dropped out or something had a change to sign up for these "opener rounds" if they wanted (as well as safety divers, coaches etc). You won't get into the actual competition, but since all the judges are there and it is done "officially", it is my understanding it's a valid performance for AIDA ranking.
Tanya didn't make it to the finals, se made a dive under 100m if I remember correctly. But she gathered her self and dove in the opener round for the women's final, and did the record there (incidentally the surfacing looked very strong from where I was watching). It's my understanding that it won't be considerend a WR because it would have had to been part of the competition or announced as an WR attempt before hand. It sounds silly, but if you think about it, it's much easier to bust a record in an opener round, since basically all the mental stress is gone. I'm not saying it was not impressive, just that there is a reason WR attempts have to be announced and realized on the announced date.
Many athletes didin't realize the potential before, but towards the end alot of "dropped out" athletes started appearing in the opener rounds. I for example opened for static finals and DNF. I figured that if I've traveled all that distance, I might as well get all the experience I can.
Funny thing is, in my DNF round there were only 2 openers. Me and a swimmer. Just before top, the announcer said something like "on lane 1 we have an actual freediver and on lane 2 a swimmer who has never freedived in his life". So there I was, with huge neck weights, paradisia, impressive looking warmup routine, breathup, packing, everything...And diving to 65m or something. And then this swimmer, no experience, no breathup, no equipment, swimming a few laps for warmup goes to 90+ meters...Kind of embarassign Well, DNF is not really my thing...
For each event (qualifying, finals), there was an "opener start", where people that are not in the actual competition would do performances. I guess this was to verify that safety, judges, cameras etc are rolling and ok. Sort of a "sound check" if you will.
The athletes that had not signed up for actual competition in a dicipline or had dropped out or something had a change to sign up for these "opener rounds" if they wanted (as well as safety divers, coaches etc). You won't get into the actual competition, but since all the judges are there and it is done "officially", it is my understanding it's a valid performance for AIDA ranking.
Tanya didn't make it to the finals, se made a dive under 100m if I remember correctly. But she gathered her self and dove in the opener round for the women's final, and did the record there (incidentally the surfacing looked very strong from where I was watching). It's my understanding that it won't be considerend a WR because it would have had to been part of the competition or announced as an WR attempt before hand. It sounds silly, but if you think about it, it's much easier to bust a record in an opener round, since basically all the mental stress is gone. I'm not saying it was not impressive, just that there is a reason WR attempts have to be announced and realized on the announced date.
Many athletes didin't realize the potential before, but towards the end alot of "dropped out" athletes started appearing in the opener rounds. I for example opened for static finals and DNF. I figured that if I've traveled all that distance, I might as well get all the experience I can.
Funny thing is, in my DNF round there were only 2 openers. Me and a swimmer. Just before top, the announcer said something like "on lane 1 we have an actual freediver and on lane 2 a swimmer who has never freedived in his life". So there I was, with huge neck weights, paradisia, impressive looking warmup routine, breathup, packing, everything...And diving to 65m or something. And then this swimmer, no experience, no breathup, no equipment, swimming a few laps for warmup goes to 90+ meters...Kind of embarassign
Well, DNF is not really my thing...
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Fast info.... THERE IS A OFFICIAL RESULT LIST FROM RENENS ON:
http://www.apneamania.com/code/page.asp?pageID=13
....this result list is a little different.
/Bill
ps. the list will be on AIDA website as fast as the webhotel had fix the problem we have to login on that site. :vangry
http://www.apneamania.com/code/page.asp?pageID=13
....this result list is a little different.
/Bill
ps. the list will be on AIDA website as fast as the webhotel had fix the problem we have to login on that site. :vangry
Walrus said:
Wal, Sam didn't go to either of the Cyprus comps. Must have been someone else you were thinking of? His time in the UK Nationals last year was 5:41, and in Vancouver last August, 6:14.
I know it's a bit late, but big congratulations to Sam, Anne-Marie and Hannah, and all the other athletes that made great achievements. See some of you tonight in Nice
A clarification about what Bill is saying, check the rules from:
http://www.aida-international.org/Pdf/documents/AIDA Rules - v11.1.pdf
1.30 All athletes disqualified from a final heat will also be disqualified from general ranking of the discipline.
Performances realized during elimination heats do not enter in the reporting line. The result from the elimination
heats can in this case only be used for claiming World, Continental or National records.
1.31 All athletes realizing a smaller/lower performance in the final heat than the performance in the elimination heats
will appear in the general ranking with his performance realized in the final heat.
http://www.aida-international.org/Pdf/documents/AIDA Rules - v11.1.pdf
1.30 All athletes disqualified from a final heat will also be disqualified from general ranking of the discipline.
Performances realized during elimination heats do not enter in the reporting line. The result from the elimination
heats can in this case only be used for claiming World, Continental or National records.
1.31 All athletes realizing a smaller/lower performance in the final heat than the performance in the elimination heats
will appear in the general ranking with his performance realized in the final heat.
the same answer than the other deeperblue topic about this theme (in the same worst english/sorry)
there are the rules, but it is really fair?
actuelly the qualification and the final are two seperate perfomances:
pawel didn´t 146m in the fnale. he was bo.
but he did 139m in the qualification.
still the final he was better then all the other 40 athlets.
he wasn´t it in the final. in the final 6 other athlets are better...
in the end: he is one from the 8 best athlets in this comp (maybe with 0 points in the ranking). and he did the 139m for the aida-ranking2005.
what is the problem? who will say that is wrong? the rules should only help to be fair...
there are the rules, but it is really fair?
actuelly the qualification and the final are two seperate perfomances:
pawel didn´t 146m in the fnale. he was bo.
but he did 139m in the qualification.
still the final he was better then all the other 40 athlets.
he wasn´t it in the final. in the final 6 other athlets are better...
in the end: he is one from the 8 best athlets in this comp (maybe with 0 points in the ranking). and he did the 139m for the aida-ranking2005.
what is the problem? who will say that is wrong? the rules should only help to be fair...
Actually, when there was a voting about the rules, I did not read this qualification/final section. Now when there has been this kind of competitios (Monaco static and Renens), it is easier to think and discuss about these rules. If I were a competitor, who did good performance in qualification but failed in finals, maybe I had a clear opinion.
For people who can't get enough of it or are looking for that one picture of themselves check out my gallery (and article) on http://gallery.glennvenghaus.com
http://www.immersion-profonde.ch/Renens2005.htm?Generalinformations.htm
This is the competition web site and they did have order forms at the pool so I know that a DVD will be produced.
This is the competition web site and they did have order forms at the pool so I know that a DVD will be produced.
Cool, Thanks for the link.
Hoping they would with so many records set.
+ Interesting too See what fins they use., and brand/type of mono
Hoping they would with so many records set.
+ Interesting too See what fins they use., and brand/type of mono
Ciao friends,
Finally finished uploading 230 pictures of pool WC....
check http://www.immersion.nu/gallery/albums.php
(if needed ask for big versions by mail, 8MPix) :thankyou
Finally finished uploading 230 pictures of pool WC....
check http://www.immersion.nu/gallery/albums.php
(if needed ask for big versions by mail, 8MPix) :thankyou
Here something different :
A movie of the mens finals Dynamics !!!!
Its big (40mb) but wanted to keep the quality up a bit.
Enjoy and sorry about the shaky last bit (i had to screem to Tom to take of his goggles ;-) )
"http://www.glennvenghaus.com/freediving/media/movies/WK2005_DYN_men_finals.zip"
A movie of the mens finals Dynamics !!!!
Its big (40mb) but wanted to keep the quality up a bit.
Enjoy and sorry about the shaky last bit (i had to screem to Tom to take of his goggles ;-) )
"http://www.glennvenghaus.com/freediving/media/movies/WK2005_DYN_men_finals.zip"
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