Spearing north wales

[Broseidon]

I fish almost exclusively in areas where sand meets reef / boulders - on all of the reefs I've dived in North Wales, I've never found the centre of the reef productive. For me, no sand = no fish - although I'm sure others will differ.

When I'm diving on the edge of a reef, the fish usually come in from the left for right, rarely coming from directly off the reef and almost never off the empty sand. From reading a few fishing books, I gathered that bass like to cruise the edges.

I dive generally to the bottom and hide in the kelp and keep still.

If you're diving on ledges, which you don't really find on the Llyn - I know of only one spot with ledges - I've found that I see more fish if I can sit on the ledge as opposed to going right to the bottom.

I've also never shot a fish on the Llyn in more than 6 to 7 meters of water. I've done a lot of deeper dives and despite the fun on going deeper, it seems unproductive

With the spot you speared today, was there some sort of pole / marker out there? (You don't have to confirm ) If there is, I'd just like to say that that is not a great spot to be swimming out to, especially on your own!

 

[DafyddRees]

With the spot you speared today, was there some sort of pole / marker out there? (You don't have to confirm ) If there is, I'd just like to say that that is not a great spot to be swimming out to, especially on your own!

Yeh, totally agree, the seals out there are dangerous - they behave like a group of roving feral children during the riots.

 

[Foxy]

I fish almost exclusively in areas where sand meets reef / boulders - on all of the reefs I've dived in North Wales, I've never found the centre of the reef productive. For me, no sand = no fish - although I'm sure others will differ.

When I'm diving on the edge of a reef, the fish usually come in from the left for right, rarely coming from directly off the reef and almost never off the empty sand. From reading a few fishing books, I gathered that bass like to cruise the edges.

I dive generally to the bottom and hide in the kelp and keep still.

If you're diving on ledges, which you don't really find on the Llyn - I know of only one spot with ledges - I've found that I see more fish if I can sit on the ledge as opposed to going right to the bottom.

I've also never shot a fish on the Llyn in more than 6 to 7 meters of water. I've done a lot of deeper dives and despite the fun on going deeper, it seems unproductive

With the spot you speared today, was there some sort of pole / marker out there? (You don't have to confirm ) If there is, I'd just like to say that that is not a great spot to be swimming out to, especially on your own!

what he says.

 

[Bass-Debater]

I fish almost exclusively in areas where sand meets reef / boulders - on all of the reefs I've dived in North Wales, I've never found the centre of the reef productive. For me, no sand = no fish - although I'm sure others will differ.

When I'm diving on the edge of a reef, the fish usually come in from the left for right, rarely coming from directly off the reef and almost never off the empty sand. From reading a few fishing books, I gathered that bass like to cruise the edges.

I dive generally to the bottom and hide in the kelp and keep still.

If you're diving on ledges, which you don't really find on the Llyn - I know of only one spot with ledges - I've found that I see more fish if I can sit on the ledge as opposed to going right to the bottom.

I've also never shot a fish on the Llyn in more than 6 to 7 meters of water. I've done a lot of deeper dives and despite the fun on going deeper, it seems unproductive

With the spot you speared today, was there some sort of pole / marker out there? (You don't have to confirm ) If there is, I'd just like to say that that is not a great spot to be swimming out to, especially on your own!

Awesome advise thanks, Its only this year really that I’ve started to do ambush, most till now has been stealthily searching over and through weed.

I must work on my patients and commitment to a single spot on the reef. I’m always looking for a better spot so I tend to have been swimming around the reefs like the fish do.

Ha I'm supposed to be the intelligent hunter but I’m acting like my quarry. Apart from only having 1% of their grace.

No poles no seals (thankfully) I was SW of there. But yeah Point taken probs wasn’t the best idea I’ve had. Looks an awesome spot. First hour and a bit into the flood I left it carried me back in with very little effort. I just dived and drifted back.

 

[JoelChester]

I fish almost exclusively in areas where sand meets reef / boulders - on all of the reefs I've dived in North Wales, I've never found the centre of the reef productive. For me, no sand = no fish - although I'm sure others will differ.

When I'm diving on the edge of a reef, the fish usually come in from the left for right, rarely coming from directly off the reef and almost never off the empty sand. From reading a few fishing books, I gathered that bass like to cruise the edges.

I dive generally to the bottom and hide in the kelp and keep still.

If you're diving on ledges, which you don't really find on the Llyn - I know of only one spot with ledges - I've found that I see more fish if I can sit on the ledge as opposed to going right to the bottom.

I've also never shot a fish on the Llyn in more than 6 to 7 meters of water. I've done a lot of deeper dives and despite the fun on going deeper, it seems unproductive

With the spot you speared today, was there some sort of pole / marker out there? (You don't have to confirm ) If there is, I'd just like to say that that is not a great spot to be swimming out to, especially on your own!

Yeah ,even using my 'Death from Above' method,the edges are where I hover,way easier to spot the fish as the emerge from the kelp onto the sand......kinda like a natural shooting range.....yee haw ! ps am down there this friday if anyone wants a buddy/night dive.....

 

[dyl12321]

yeah, Im about as usual. Friday night looks like the best for a night dive maybe sat night. we shall soon find out. depends on this bloody wind. tides aren't helping either. basstard fancy a dive sometime??

 

[Foxy]

Damn, cant get down until sat eve at the earliest. will keep in touch though.

Patrick

 

[winky]

I fish almost exclusively in areas where sand meets reef / boulders - on all of the reefs I've dived in North Wales, I've never found the centre of the reef productive. For me, no sand = no fish - although I'm sure others will differ.

When I'm diving on the edge of a reef, the fish usually come in from the left for right, rarely coming from directly off the reef and almost never off the empty sand. From reading a few fishing books, I gathered that bass like to cruise the edges.

I dive generally to the bottom and hide in the kelp and keep still.

If you're diving on ledges, which you don't really find on the Llyn - I know of only one spot with ledges - I've found that I see more fish if I can sit on the ledge as opposed to going right to the bottom.

I've also never shot a fish on the Llyn in more than 6 to 7 meters of water. I've done a lot of deeper dives and despite the fun on going deeper, it seems unproductive

With the spot you speared today, was there some sort of pole / marker out there? (You don't have to confirm ) If there is, I'd just like to say that that is not a great spot to be swimming out to, especially on your own!

Different places different tactics for me....shallow string weed I cruise about very slowly at the bottom, through the weed, around the boulders/rocks. Have a canny knack of finding plenty of bass this way.

Deeper marks (5m+) ditto Bro, I like lying on the edge of the reef, tucking in tight, if not completely immersed into the weed, however I have seen many bigger fish in the middle of a reef over the kelp, including the 10lb bass I had last month....

 

[denian]

stealth at all times is my top plan I sneek over the top or round of rocks n reefs gun ready to fire at first sight of silver then drop down and silhouette any fish against the blue sea /sky gain any cover from weed try and wait but I'm usually on my way back to the surface. looking constantly in 360 o slowly not looking directly at a fish if you see any.masks / big eyes appear to spook fish more I think?

 

[Broseidon]

...not looking directly at a fish if you see any.masks / big eyes appear to spook fish more I think?

I wear the world's largest mask with a massive single plate of glass and have never observed a fish being spooked by me looking at it. I don't think that that is something to really worry about

 

[foxfish]

This subject has been heavily discussed on db before, when we had a more active mediterranean section, a lot of guys were convinced that avoiding eye contact was a very good idea - no idea if this is a fact or not though!
A lot of serious guys only used mirrored glass in thier mask but, you don't seem to see this talked about so much recently!

 

[denian]

Ah that's what it is they swim right up to the glass to look at there reflection and you grab them!I know how you work!LOL.You wouldn't possibly do that on a night dive would you!!I'm sure there's something about fish not liking being looked at may be they are all female!ooops.

 

[Broseidon]

I tried not looking at the fish but I found it makes it VERY hard to shoot them rofl

 

[denian]

Use the force Brose use the force .!

 

[Foxy]

Bro

do you use one of the Beauchat deep C masks? Whats it ike? Quite fancy one..... Bit retro and looks like cool viz...

 

[Broseidon]

Nope, it's some cheapo Typhoon thing I've had for years.

I've bought a few Spearing masks, Cressi & Omer ones, but just can't get used to the reduced visibility. I'm going to upgrade to the new Mares Essence Liquidskin when it comes back in stock at diving direct as the trusty Typhoon can get a little uncomfortable at times.

Current mask:

 

[ben]

Worth looking at atomics frameless mask - big field of vision...

And yeah im sure eye contact makes a difference i try not to eyeball fish!

 

[Robbo66]

As the young apprentice above states, that mask is the best I have ever used. He is also correct as regards catching their eyes....don't they will bolt.

This weekends a wash out, windsurfing. I'll bell you.

 

[Foxy]

Another washout weekend? Hum. I was looking at the Beauchat compensator james bond special as it looked a bit of a laugh... Not sure of the practicality etc but thought it might bring back some memories.

 

[DafyddRees]

Worth looking at atomics frameless mask - big field of vision...
!

Bought it, dived with it, hated it, got a refund.

Never looked back since buying my aqualung micromask from a quaint little shop in Marseille.

Its the small fish that don't bolt as soon as you look at them. It's either a learning thing (if fish CAN learn and remember key incidents) that causes the large, adult fish to ghost around a safe distance from you and recognise the threat posed by two straight looking eyes or they were the naturally nervous fish when juveniles..

Either way, if there are larger, flighty fish I only eyeball them to pull the trigger other than that I keep them in my periphery.