Walrus said:
I'm not sure if Bill was saying to save energy before the ascent or during ?
I don't think there is an ideal speed to suit everyone, Will said he experimented by slowing down a little and it seemed to improve his dive.
David there are now a lot more freedivers with experience in no-fins so you shouldn't think of yourself as the only expert, a lot has happened in the AIDA world now that it's becoming a more common discipline. Apart from Martin's 80m World Record there are 3 national records that stand higher the FREE record. This year Herbert Nitsch dived 70m, William Winram from Canada dived 66m and myself also 66m. These were all done in competition having to use lanyards, getting a countdown and having a tough surface protocol that has to be done in 15 seconds. I don't claim to be anywhere near Will or Martin's level but having done no-fins dives to 70m I know that a fast ascent does not work for me. I have tried different things and what suits me is using a longer glide, ie pause betweem strokes, my dive speed is much slower then Will. Maybe this isn't ideal, maybe it is I'm not sure - but it worked for me before my last competition so had to go with it. I haven't trained much for no-fins constant in the last couple of years so it was easier for me to fall back on what works for me in dynamic.
Will knows what he is doing demonstrated on the amazing dives he has done in training and I'm sure he will pull it off at his next record attempt. My philosophy is there isn't an ideal aproach/technique/speed for everyone, you have to be willing to try out some different things, experiment a little, use your brain and see what works for you.
Cheers,
Wal
Wowzers....So basically what I get from all of this is...
When I say Will could have done a faster dive, "B & Wally" automatically thinks I mean expending energy like a squid having a ceasure and that I can't tell the difference between 65 and 80m.
Is there a difference between 65 and 80m...Yes...It's called 15m...A few years ago there was a big jump from 50 - 65m...Was there a difference? yes. 15m...You guys seeing a trend here? A few years from now (or even sooner) you will have to say..."There's a big difference between 90 and 100m!"...Not saying I will be the fruity one doing this craziness but history will just repeat itself..People will learn more, get stronger and keep pushing the envelope...
Then Wally truns around and basically calls me a "Self proclaimed, know it all expert who's been living under a rock for the last 3 years."
I can just feel the love and warmth from you guys
:inlove
So I come to show my support for Will and in turn get attitude...I think someone may have woke up with sand in their vagina
Y'all need to chill and quit over analizing everything and start looking at the things that are important here....Why Will didn't make it and what we think he can do to come out fresh the next time.
When I say Will could go faster I didn't mean he should expend more energy and increase strokes...If you have seen my first dive you would think I had just learned to swim the day before my first record. There's this thing I have been working on the last year and half called streamlining and technique...It's quite amazing actually, during this time a wonderful swim coach made me realise that when I put all the elements together correctly I can cover the same distance at a much faster pace without expending any additional energy. So this is what I mean by fast... Better technique = faster dive with less energy. We can all do little things to shave off fractions of a second here and there....Then you take these little things and multiply it by the amout of strokes you are doing and the next thing you know, all these little fractions add up 8-10 seconds shorter dive time on deeper unassisted dives..I've seen it and it opened my eyes. Now, since you guys have all the experince and diving so deep under tough conditions you will know that on an unassisted dive where you are pushing your limit, even a 1-3 seconds can mean the difference between a successful dive and an unsuccessful one...
(Will, please don't take this as me saying you have bad technique..The way things are going here you may end up interpriting it that way...But all of us have wiggle room for improvement)
I had watched Will's video of the previous attemt and damn it if he wasn't close to getting it...I almost feel cheated for him not getting it...He made it to the surface and then blacked out....All I could think of was, "Man, if he would just have arrived 5 seconds sooner he would have had it!" This is why I was almost willing to bet my left nut that Will would have made a successful dive this time.
Will, sorry for hijacking your thread but I felt compelled to retun the love and warmth I recieved from some of the beloved deeperblue members. Again, please don't take this as anthing other than me showing my support for you...I truly wish you would have kicked some serious @$$ this time around and I am sure we will be hearing more from you....With all that said, i'm done here....You guys stay safe and have fun.