2014 lunocet

[neurodoc]

Here's a nice image of tubercles; basically bumps on the leading edges (head in this case). This would not be hard to experiment with; some round adhesive tire patches and a BB or something to stick under it. Put a few on the fin, strategically placed to mimic the whale's design. What is harder is to do is tell if it makes a difference! http://tonywu.photoshelter.com/image/I0000CIP80CwYljE

 

[Chipswim]

Read the abstract...NEAT!. It is about the pectoral fins so control and steering while slicing through the water with minimal drag is the focus.

Wonder if the same feature is present on the whale's tail flukes for propulsion? I think that is the indicator that might most directly apply to us.

A second article pops up right behind the one you suggested.

While Monofinning humans hands combined with body position are used for steering. (I notice speedo fast skins racing suits have some features to tumble water on the leading torso.) There is no formal sporting event demonstrating agility while monofinning that seems to have emerged. Most significant turns are done near full stop.... Except the guys fishing maybe. They have to also turn their weapon so it seems they are at an even greater maneuverability disadvantage?? I suppose most fish are speared by a swimmer who is nearly stationery or moving near straight ahead? Maybe an event to demonstrate agility will emerge?

Hmmmmmm... On the other hand AA's under water hockey must be such an event. Not aware monofins get any play there.

I live so isolated from all that... Only guessing.

 

[thistent]

I've noticed from looking at pictures that the tail end of a humpback fluke has a jagged edge.. not sure how much that plays into the overall efficiency, but it seems to me that giving the water channels to pass through at higher kick angles could reduce drag.

 

[neurodoc]

http://darwin.wcupa.edu/~biology/fish/pubs/pdf/2011ICB humpback.pdf

 

[cdavis]

Ah, maneuverability of a mono and spearfishing, my kind of subject. For spearing, its tricky. You can do large turns with a mono quite quickly, its the small adjustments that get you. I could not get a traditional mono to work for either type of agility. too much surface area combined with having to keep the feet together, I think. The Dol-fin, with its tiny surface area, gets much closer. It takes some learning, but I can spearfish with it. Not as agile as bifins, but close enough. Put that together with the other advantages of a mono and its a winner.

I've followed this thread and the lunocet, closely, wondering how it would compare. The fin was originally so small that it looked like it should have similar agility to the Dol-fin. Sounds like the efficiency and slow speed issues with the classic luno have been solved, at least mostly, in the pro. But that was at the cost of making the blade much bigger, closer to a traditional mono. That has to have some effect on limiting agility. Nobody else out there that I know of is doing my kind of diving with a luno, so I'll just have to get one myself or wait for a kindred spirit.

 

[neurodoc]

cdavis, I have a pro lunocet and intend to try it out for spearfishing-possibly as early as tomorrow. It's not the epic spearfishing some members do and post incredible images of; freshwater lake, big polespear and I don't go deeper than 50 feet for lack of a dive buddy that can do the same. I do get some carp, bass, and even a small gar once so it's still lots of fun. I've been wondering about the Lunocet for this, as I've tried my Glide fin and it definitely didn't work. I usually use my Cressi 3000 long fins for spearfishing so far. As my fishing style is swimming along the edge of a rocky shore as far out as I can still see the bottom, the Lunocet might work well for this! Part of the problem with using a monofin for spearing (for me) was that my technique was poor, and that made it hard to do a dolphin kick while holding a spear. It's improved greatly now, and I can do a dolphin kick with my arms not moving up and down. This makes me think I could use the Lunocet for spearing. Also, when spearing I use Darkfin gloves, and these help a great deal with small movements, even if only one handed, as they provide great resistance. The polespear doesn't chew up my hand as much either

 

[PoseidonSv]

I guess the non delivered Lunocet Pro fin for me is just because Ted likes to upgrade it with newest designed spring and flukes. Is this correct?

 

[wtu2000]

Has anyone tried "jumping" with the Pro version? (breaching the surface)

 

[noa]

Has anyone tried "jumping" with the Pro version? (breaching the surface)

Started playing with breaching within the first half hour of my first swim. My technique needs work, as do some aspects of the fin. All I can say at this point is that it certainly holds promise. Don't be surprised when you see spectacular achievements happen with this fin...

 

[neurodoc]

I guess the non delivered Lunocet Pro fin for me is just because Ted likes to upgrade it with newest designed spring and flukes. Is this correct?

I believe this is basically correct; significant improvements were made to the manufacturing process for the spring for example. If you get a Pro model now, it will have this updated tougher spring. From what I understand, you may be given the option to upgrade to the newest model with newer flukes and 2-joint peduncle as well if you choose to. There may also be an upgrade kit available to add the 2-joint peduncle and bigger spring to an existing Pro fin. Ted indicated to me over the weekend that he only has a handful of unfilled orders at this point, so yours should be coming up real soon I would think.

 

[Chipswim]

Thanks for the update Doc! Sounds like you have the freshest info.... Very encouraging too !!!! Go Ted Goooo!

 

[Philip Fennell]

cdavis, This makes me think I could use the Lunocet for spearing. Also, when spearing I use Darkfin gloves, and these help a great deal with small movements, even if only one handed, as they provide great resistance.

In the same vane that some people have tried using weighted training gloves to improve the mono-fin stroke, would there be any benefit from using a webbed glove, like the Darkfin, as a 'surface' to push against or 'control' the movement that would add benefit to the stroke?

 

[Philip Fennell]

... From what I understand, you may be given the option to upgrade to the newest model with newer flukes and 2-joint peduncle as well if you choose to. There may also be an upgrade kit available to add the 2-joint peduncle and bigger spring to an existing Pro fin. Ted indicated to me over the weekend that he only has a handful of unfilled orders at this point, so yours should be coming up real soon I would think.

I will look forward to receiving this option and I'm pleased to hear that orders are moving along.

 

[Ted Ciamillo]

Hi Guys,

Coming into the home stretch on the improvements to the Pro. I will begin shipping in about 4 days. Anyone here who is still waiting on a Pro will get the new 2015 unit. The improvements are worth the wait:
http://caw-designs.com/?product=2015-lunocet-pro-pre-order-special

 

[Ted Ciamillo]

Here are the details on the new spring:

 

[Ted Ciamillo]

With every change we are becoming more and more a marine mammal.

 

[noa]

With every change we are becoming more and more a marine mammal.

Very enticing ! If I may ask, how are the new flukes different ?

 

[noa]

Also, can owners of the older Pro, order the new peduncle part and spring to upgrade to this new design ?

 

[Chipswim]

Yahoo! It's a great afternoon!!! Figured out an elusive electrical problem with boat moments ago too....... Off to buy a lottery ticket before my luck changes !!!!

 

[Sarcomere]

Excited to get my 2015 Lunocet. Should be worth the wait!