AIDA Results Register

[trux]

WWC2010 results are on the LSFC website, in pdf unfortunately. If you want the original spreadsheets, try emailing Kathryn? I'm in Dahab and therefore useless to you.

Yes, Chris, she already sent the Excel file, and I included the results too. They are now online.

Osusim, thanks, I'll look into it. Unfortunately the source files often contain many errors or inconsistet formatting resulting in conversion errors. If only everyone used FC (or AIDA enforced it untill they have an own working system), it would help a lot.

 

[MikkoP]

Hi Trux,

I'm trying to investigate what has happened to the Asikkala depth challenge results.

Also, the Okinawa DNF mini comp was cancelled, so there are no results for that.


PS. This dynamic signature banner is quite neat.

 

[chrismar]

Fantastic. That competition is dear to my heart right now

Maybe also email Kathryn to make sure someone sends you results from the Wellington competition this weekend too. We are hoping it is a special one!

 

[laminar]

Hi guys,

A number of us deeper blue denizens have roles on national AIDA boards. Any interest in drafting a motion to press the AIDA Int'l board into more concrete action on this?

I do know that despite Ivo's hundreds if not thousands of hours of volunteer time, this likely requires a volunteer to coordinate associated to the AIDA board to chase comp organizers to submit their results on time and in the preferred formats.

I'm on the AIDA Canada board. If anyone wants to put something together, please PM me. Ivo, I would love your input on what you would like to see (simple steps) and I can present it to our board (AIDA Canada) to send out to the Assembly/International Board for more action.

Pete

 

[trux]

Also, the Okinawa DNF mini comp was cancelled, so there are no results for that.

Great, thanks for the info, Mikko! One more down

PS. This dynamic signature banner is quite neat.

Hehe, glad you enjoy it

We are hoping it is a special one!

We hope so too, and are eager to hear the results. If organizers send me the results between the competition days, I am able entering them practically live. They do not need to wait for "beautifying" them - I see often that organizers want to make their table looking better before sending to AIDA, but in fact it makes the import usually more complicated than working with a raw Excel table they use at the competition.

A number of us deeper blue denizens have roles on national AIDA boards. Any interest in drafting a motion to press the AIDA Int'l board into more concrete action on this?

I cannot blame anyone specifically - everyone on the board and in the commissions has much more on the shoulders than they can handle. The AIDA board searches an IT coordinator since a good moment, and it is really needed, but it will be a very time and skill demanding function, so I wonder whether someone will take the responsibility. Personally I wouldn't want to be responsible for all the IT projects that AIDA needs - it is more than enough work for a full time professional. And I speak only about the coordination of the projects - the real work needs to be done by a team of volunteers. We had couple of them at the beginning, but it looks that their energy and available time were drained dry rather quick. They all have their jobs, families, and own training plans, so it is not quite well compatible with intensive IT work.

It is just a pity AIDA did not enforce using FC already years ago. I know it is far to be perfect, and that it has some bugs, and other problems, but it is still thousand times better than what we have now. It would have cost AIDA nothing, it would save work to everyone involved, while allowing to have instant, and consistent results from all competitions.

I know that both Simo and Eric worked on adjusting the FC software for AIDA needs, but do not know why it stopped and why it is not used. I imagine there were some complications and they do not have time to complete it. That's not bad and everyone can understand it, but I never understood why my demands to enforcing FC instantly was never accepted. It would cost nothing, and could be done immediately. Instead of it, it is already several years we are all just complaining about the status quo, and waiting that some miraculous solution appears.

 

[osusim]

Bug: 7th AIDA Team World Championship 2010 doesn't has a AIDA ranking status.

 

[trux]

Thanks! It's fixed (it actually had a higher status, but was incorrectly filtered)

 

[trux]

I see incorrect STA point's for all results of Indoor Cup Tateyama 2010 (both men and women).

Thanks! In fact the points were all right. The times were wrong (error during the conversion andn import)

 

[rxcnc2]

btw, Bodenseemeisterschaften 2010 was cancelled you can remove it from your list of missing comps.

 

[rxcnc2]

while the results for this one
VII individual Polish freediving championship flag Blaskowizna/Hanczalake 07/29/2010
were posted here on DB
Results Mistrzostwa Polski w Nurkowaniu na wstrzymanym oddechu

 

[trux]

btw, Bodenseemeisterschaften 2010 was cancelled you can remove it from your list of missing comps.

Thanks! Another one down, but unfortunately five more up in the meantime.

while the results for this one
VII individual Polish freediving championship flag Blaskowizna/Hanczalake 07/29/2010
were posted here on DB
Results Mistrzostwa Polski w Nurkowaniu na wstrzymanym oddechu

Well, not really in a format I can easily work with, and missing important data - dates of each performance, AP's, cards, penalties, notes, and also genders (but those are evident in this case), so they are far to the ideal, but I added them anyway (after some manual handling).

If any of you who enjoy the ranking visit competitions, you could insist on the organizers to send an Excel or Open Office document to aida_ranking and/or to me immediately when the competition is closed (or even between the individual competition days), and ask them to include all important data (name, surname, nationality, gender, AP, RP, card, penalty, points, notes, date of the performance), it would already help me a lot. From the hundreds of competitions I processed, I could count those that came in suitable format (if they came at all) on the fingers of my hands. And, of course, the easiest of all for everyone involved would be using Freedive Central, since I can import the data from them automatically, and the data are always in clean consistent format.

 

[trux]

Eric van Riet Paap asked me for a new feature in the ranking, and I added it today, so am posting about it here too, because it may be interesting for others (especially for competition organizers) too.

You can now display a ranking chart for a list of names (or ID's). It means, for example, if you have a list of freedivers registered to a competition, you can display their current ranking, and see the favorites, or your own theoretic rank in that list.

The syntax is simple - just add the switch "names:" to the URL address, followed by a comma separated list of full names of the competitors. Blanks in the names must be replaced with dashes, and the names must be identical to the names used in the ranking (letter case does not matter though). Other switches for setting the report mode, for filtering the discipline, gender, year, nation, etc. work as usually.

There is an example here, showing the best CWT performance in year 2010 for the listed competitors. The length of the list is not limited (except of limit of maximal address that some browsers impose - I think it may be 1024 characters in some cases)

http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?md:bes...,William-Trubridge,Guillaume-Nery,Eric-Fattah (you need to click the link to see it full -the forum hides part of it)

If the length of the address line becomes an issue, you can use a list of ID's, instead of list of names - that would be much shorter. You can find ID's of individual competitors in the "permalink" on the profile pages of individual competitors. It is the value after the "pid:" in the permalink.

The list based ranking can can be used both directly on the website (http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?names:...), as well as for embedding to your website via IFRAME (http://apnea.cz/rankex.html?names:...) or via Javascript (http://apnea.cz/rankjs.html?names:...), or the raw format for parsing by scripts (http://apnea.cz/rankraw.html?names:...). Some more details, syntax examples, and tips about embedding pages into your website or blog can be found at http://apnea.cz/en/embedcal.html - although it was written as instruction for embedding the competition calendar, if you replace the base address (rankcalex.html, rankcaljs.html, rankcalraw.html) with the above mentioned ones (rankex.html, rankjs.html, rankraw.html), the instructions apply also for embedding of these list based ranking, global ranking, national ranking, personal profiles, etc.

AIDA Czech Republic and AIDA France embed the tables of their nations from Apnea.cz on their pages. If any other national branch is interested in doing so too, and needs some help with setting it up, do not hesitate to ask.

And of course, if a competition organizer needs a help with embedding an in-list ranking, or competitor profiles into their webpages, or if someone wants to embed own profile, or ranking into his blog or personal webpage, just ask if you encounter any problems.

 

[trux]

Plenty of new competitions are in the ranking. Not only numerous latest AIDA competitions and individual records, but also some by CMAS, FIPSAS, and FFESSM, and including several older Croatian CMAS championships.

We still miss results of many competitions. Those of AIDA for 2010 are listed here:
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?missing+2010+AIDA

And the full list is here:
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?missing

If you know about any of the missing results, or if you know that some of them were cancelled, please let me know. Also do not hesitate sending results of national competitions not run under the official AIDA status.

On a request I also added a new data field for the freedivers who passed away, and the date will appear on their personal profile page. I also added a Memorial Page listing the missing freedivers, so that they are well remembered, and have a decent dedicated place in the ranking. I hope that the page stays short for long time.

Some more changes and extensions are in the work. Do not hesitate to post your wishes.

 

[Goran Colak]

Did we all miss something or Leonardo Ciaramita did something extraordinary?

best results - all federations / all time DYN 827 m 1. 791.0 %

This must really be the one that will never be broken

 

[Mullins]

They really need to step up their anti-doping programme....

 

[trux]

Hm, where do yo see it? I only see 82.7 m at Ciaramita. It is true there was a conversion error at this competitor during the import, but I fixed it almost instantly after the import already yesterday, so it was there just for a few minutes to my knowledge. It is hence surprising you report it now. Does the result still appear somewhere? I can't find any remnants of it.

EDIT: Well, perhpas there may still just be remantns on his cached personal stat page, or eventually on some other cached statistics, but that will go away after the next reindexing of the database, which is being done daily.

 

[ericvrp]

APNEA.cz - Ranking

for instance

 

[trux]

Yes, that's the cached personal stat page, I mentioned. But who comes to visit a personal page of an unknown Italian FIPSAS competitor Ciaramita, unless you post the link here?

Anyway I just launched the reindexing, so the cached content will be gone in some minutes

 

[ericvrp]

Don't know about others but I landed there by first looking at the overall pool results page.
Posted via Mobile Device

 

[Goran Colak]

I saw it on a pool overall rankings, like Eric.. today at the time when I posted here...