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AIDA Results Register
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Eric, how much is your FRC?
I did try FRC 16x50 (1/2 exhale - I can exhale pretty much, ~ 6 L TLC) and had some weird effects starting from lane 2. I think I did an similar schedule, but with monofin. in lane 3 it got challenging, with a difficult last 5m seeing some visual artefacts such as 'stars'. The next lane this started 3m earlier. When at lane 6 I quit because it was getting far into an unknown area and now swimming close to 15m with darkened strarrie vision and the end of the 50m. I have to try it again, perhaps start of with an easier schedule.
For those who are new to 16x50m, it's not practical to pack; it takes to much time.
I did try FRC 16x50 (1/2 exhale - I can exhale pretty much, ~ 6 L TLC) and had some weird effects starting from lane 2. I think I did an similar schedule, but with monofin. in lane 3 it got challenging, with a difficult last 5m seeing some visual artefacts such as 'stars'. The next lane this started 3m earlier. When at lane 6 I quit because it was getting far into an unknown area and now swimming close to 15m with darkened strarrie vision and the end of the 50m. I have to try it again, perhaps start of with an easier schedule.
For those who are new to 16x50m, it's not practical to pack; it takes to much time.
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OK, the ranking is now on the new server. Most of you can already access it. In some cases it may take a while before the new IP address propagates through the net to some name servers - in that case you would still see the old website with the "maintenance" message, but if you refresh the page in some minutes, or maximally couple of hours, it should find the new website.
There is still a lot of work to do, but basically it look it works fine, and it is much faster than before. However, if you see some irregularities or weirdness, please let me know.
There is still a lot of work to do, but basically it look it works fine, and it is much faster than before. However, if you see some irregularities or weirdness, please let me know.
Just to clarify.
Ivo Truxa is now officially working for Aida within the IT work group toghether with Simo K, Eric RvP and Jonas D. The aim is to produce an Aida ranking database based on the work of Freedivecentral, Simo K´s 2008 ranking system and Ivo´s own passionate work.
Sebastian Naslund
Ivo Truxa is now officially working for Aida within the IT work group toghether with Simo K, Eric RvP and Jonas D. The aim is to produce an Aida ranking database based on the work of Freedivecentral, Simo K´s 2008 ranking system and Ivo´s own passionate work.
Sebastian Naslund
Thanks Sebastian!
I like your pro active communicative approach, well done!
Not to forget a BIG thank you to:
Ivo Truxa, Simo K, Eric RvP, Jonas D and Freedive central for their passionate contributions!
Just an idea for you Sebastian:
Maybe credit the individuals with a mention and photo on the specific site they have helped building.
I imagine it could be below the page, in a 24 or 32 pixel high row featuring their faces and names, giving credit were due. Adding a link to a main AIDA credit page and/or their personal websites would also be a nice thank you I think.
Furthermore I was thinking of posting a ordered (Country, Continent) list of AIDA instructors with links and contact info, so as interested people can look it up and get a good education.
I like your pro active communicative approach, well done!
Not to forget a BIG thank you to:
Ivo Truxa, Simo K, Eric RvP, Jonas D and Freedive central for their passionate contributions!
Just an idea for you Sebastian:
Maybe credit the individuals with a mention and photo on the specific site they have helped building.
I imagine it could be below the page, in a 24 or 32 pixel high row featuring their faces and names, giving credit were due. Adding a link to a main AIDA credit page and/or their personal websites would also be a nice thank you I think.
Furthermore I was thinking of posting a ordered (Country, Continent) list of AIDA instructors with links and contact info, so as interested people can look it up and get a good education.
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Well, Kars, it might be nice, but since it is the IT team self who needs to take care of the website, specifically Jonas in this case, it would be little bit self-promoting, and besides it, there are right now much more urgent tasks to complete. The import of the ranking data into the AIDA Result Register will happen shortly (just after I complete the data gathering and cleaning), but what is much more important is the registration system (based on Freedive Central software) which will avoid the necessity of entering the data manually in future, and will avoid so many mistakes the manual data entry necessarily involves. For the moment it is Eric who works on this part (and stays modestly in the shadow). And there is a lot of things that need to be modified and adjusted, so it will certainly take a moment.
As for the list of instructors, I believe there always was such a list on AIDA's website:
http://www.aida-international.org/aspportal1/code/page.asp?MemberCategoryID=7&CountryID=4&actID=3&ObjectID=106
As well, as there always was a page with small photos of the developers who helped to run the website:
http://www.aida-international.org/aspportal1/code/page.asp?MemberCategoryID=8&CountryID=4&actID=3&ObjectID=106
Well, it is not updated, so Eric and myself are not on it, but that's the last thing, I'd bother with
As for the list of instructors, I believe there always was such a list on AIDA's website:
http://www.aida-international.org/aspportal1/code/page.asp?MemberCategoryID=7&CountryID=4&actID=3&ObjectID=106
As well, as there always was a page with small photos of the developers who helped to run the website:
http://www.aida-international.org/aspportal1/code/page.asp?MemberCategoryID=8&CountryID=4&actID=3&ObjectID=106
Well, it is not updated, so Eric and myself are not on it, but that's the last thing, I'd bother with
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In the comp Freediving Moscow Cup 2009 Natalia Molchanova did 130m in the DYN discipline, not DNF (but without fins). Her second result in DNF with DQ is correct. See http://www.free-diving.ru/parser.php?p_id=35&r_id=88&c_id=302&an_cur_part=1∝=0&view_msg=1&search_txt=&a_id=1044
Well, if she did 130 m wihtin DYN, but without fins, it is still DNF. That's the way such performances are ranked at many other events too. In most cases you can see a note about it in the Notes field, but some organizers simply announce it as DNF, without even mentioning it anywhere.
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I guess it depends if the competition was announced as a DYN/DNF (which I think most competitions are) or just DYN (where you still are allowed to swim without fins but the result will still count as a DYN-result).
And again: massive work you guys are doing!!! You have my deepest thanks!
And again: massive work you guys are doing!!! You have my deepest thanks!
That's right, but this information is rarely available in the result files. So if the performance comes marked as DNF, it is categorized so. Often there isn't even any note if it was done within DYN or as a separate discipline. So theoretically I could look up whether DNF was announced for that competition, but that information is missing often too. It means untill a more structural registration system is in place, where organizers will be forced to enter all correctly directly into the database, instead of passing to AIDA incomplete data sheets in the weirdest formats you can imagine, I am afraid you'll have to be satisfied with the data as it is. However, from purely informational point of view, I believe it is more just to see a performance done without fins as DNF, than having it under DYN, even if it is perhaps sometimes not following the regulation of the competition.
Time for an update: there are many more results in the database, diverse errors and problems fixed, but especially there is a new feature that will certainly interest everyone - I added personal data and statistics to the the competitor's page.
If you click a name on the results list, you land on a page of the respective competitor which lists all his/her results (either globally in all history, or in a scope selected in the menu: federation, year, discipline, etc.). That was there since the beginning, but now, on the left side there is a new pane with available personal data of the competitor, with a photo (if available, but there are around 1000 of them), and with different statistical data: the number of recorded performances, the numbers of medals, number of World Championship performances, number and/or percentages of white, yellow, and red cards, blackouts, DNS, etc.
And below it, there is a table with best performances in each discipline, with the world and national ranks, and with the percentage of the average and maximal world and national performance in given discipline.
The first table shows global results (all time, and all competitions, even those non-ranking, or done under other federations than AIDA). But if you select a limited scope (federation, year), there is another similar table below it, with ranks and percentages in that year, and under the specified federation. Basically either AIDA or CMAS - the other ones are either included under CMAS (FFESSM, FIPSAS), or ignored because they practically only sanction records (IAFD, FREE). If you select AIDA, you get the ranks calculated only with results from competition with the "ranking" status.
If you click a name on the results list, you land on a page of the respective competitor which lists all his/her results (either globally in all history, or in a scope selected in the menu: federation, year, discipline, etc.). That was there since the beginning, but now, on the left side there is a new pane with available personal data of the competitor, with a photo (if available, but there are around 1000 of them), and with different statistical data: the number of recorded performances, the numbers of medals, number of World Championship performances, number and/or percentages of white, yellow, and red cards, blackouts, DNS, etc.
And below it, there is a table with best performances in each discipline, with the world and national ranks, and with the percentage of the average and maximal world and national performance in given discipline.
The first table shows global results (all time, and all competitions, even those non-ranking, or done under other federations than AIDA). But if you select a limited scope (federation, year), there is another similar table below it, with ranks and percentages in that year, and under the specified federation. Basically either AIDA or CMAS - the other ones are either included under CMAS (FFESSM, FIPSAS), or ignored because they practically only sanction records (IAFD, FREE). If you select AIDA, you get the ranks calculated only with results from competition with the "ranking" status.
Well, I only enter data I got from organizers. You best contact them and ask them to send us correct data, if you find errors in it.
EDIT: I will change the nationality: although you are indeed Ukrainian on their data sheet, I guess you know it better (though knowing you, I am not quite sure if you know what you are). But as for the missing results, or distances different than I got on the official result sheet, I really need it from an official source, not just from soneone on the forum.
EDIT: I will change the nationality: although you are indeed Ukrainian on their data sheet, I guess you know it better (though knowing you, I am not quite sure if you know what you are). But as for the missing results, or distances different than I got on the official result sheet, I really need it from an official source, not just from soneone on the forum.
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To allow you to link to your profile, to some competition results, to country or federation results, etc, I added the possibility to specify the parameters in an easy way. The permalinks are not yet being displayed on the pages, but I'll add them somewhere there too in a moment.
You can now append different parameters to the URL, such as the discipline, year, sex, federation, the name of the competitor, team, or competition, country, and some others. You can add just a single parameter, as well as several of them separated by a + sign. Most of it is case insensitive and to some extent fault-tolerant. You can use 2 characters or 3 characters ISO country codes (those must be uppercase), or English country names. Order of the parameters does not matter. In case of multiple matches for a name, the first found is used. In such case you can enter the full name (first name first, then the family name, separated with a blank or an underscore). For the gender, different strings are accepted - simple M or F, or common names in several languages (male, female, men, boys, hommes,...)
For example:
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?Mullins
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?FR+2005
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?2009+Pavel_Alcocer+DYN+AIDA
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?CMAS+women
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?apneaman+2009
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?nordic_deep_2008+CWT+M
You can now append different parameters to the URL, such as the discipline, year, sex, federation, the name of the competitor, team, or competition, country, and some others. You can add just a single parameter, as well as several of them separated by a + sign. Most of it is case insensitive and to some extent fault-tolerant. You can use 2 characters or 3 characters ISO country codes (those must be uppercase), or English country names. Order of the parameters does not matter. In case of multiple matches for a name, the first found is used. In such case you can enter the full name (first name first, then the family name, separated with a blank or an underscore). For the gender, different strings are accepted - simple M or F, or common names in several languages (male, female, men, boys, hommes,...)
For example:
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?Mullins
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?FR+2005
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?2009+Pavel_Alcocer+DYN+AIDA
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?CMAS+women
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?apneaman+2009
http://apnea.cz/ranking.html?nordic_deep_2008+CWT+M
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Some more toys for those who enjoy playing with the numbers: you could already sort all the national, regional, continental statistics, and club and federation stats, but sorting of the competitor stats was more complicated, and it took little bit longer to implement. Now it is there, so if you choose the "competitor stats" in the mode selector, you can sort the table by any column. Just click the column header you wish, and get so the competitors sorted by name, best performance, accumulated points, average performance, numbers and ratios of blackouts and disqualifications, numbers of medals and records, etc.
And of course, all of the sorted reports work also in different scopes: you can sort global, continental, regional, national, or club reports; all federations, or just a single one; discipline by discipline, or all together; genders mixed or separated; one year, or all history; etc, etc.
So for example you can see that the most diligent freediver is Weine Gustavsson with total of 5567.5 points in 96 starts, followed by Henning Larsen, and Herbert Nitsch. Or that the highest average performance (DQ's and DNS excluded) belong to a little known Italian, but likely because he has only one start recorded. He shares the first position with William Trubridge who has 31 starts (hence ranked first) - both have the average (for all disciplines) of 89.9 points. They are followed by Petrisko, Sietas, and Stepanek. Also the BO stats are interesting, though unfortunately many of the BO's are not recorded, since the data sheets from organizers often do not contain that information.
If you do not understand some of the abbreviations used, or do not know what some icons mean, just hold your mouse cursor over it for a second or two, and a brief "mouseover" legend pops up.
I added also a "permalink" right above the selection menu, so you can now bookmark or hyperlink individual reports.
And of course, all of the sorted reports work also in different scopes: you can sort global, continental, regional, national, or club reports; all federations, or just a single one; discipline by discipline, or all together; genders mixed or separated; one year, or all history; etc, etc.
So for example you can see that the most diligent freediver is Weine Gustavsson with total of 5567.5 points in 96 starts, followed by Henning Larsen, and Herbert Nitsch. Or that the highest average performance (DQ's and DNS excluded) belong to a little known Italian, but likely because he has only one start recorded. He shares the first position with William Trubridge who has 31 starts (hence ranked first) - both have the average (for all disciplines) of 89.9 points. They are followed by Petrisko, Sietas, and Stepanek. Also the BO stats are interesting, though unfortunately many of the BO's are not recorded, since the data sheets from organizers often do not contain that information.
If you do not understand some of the abbreviations used, or do not know what some icons mean, just hold your mouse cursor over it for a second or two, and a brief "mouseover" legend pops up.
I added also a "permalink" right above the selection menu, so you can now bookmark or hyperlink individual reports.
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