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AERIS F.10 User Feedback

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I am here bon bahamas without user manual.
I am plattform manager on tyhe WC so I need my F10 operational.

Problem is it says OFF in the display.
I have to press top left to see the time.
I want the time on always.

And when in Freedive mode I need to with a push see the TIME of day.
How do I do that?

Sebastian
 
PM me your email and I will mail you the manual, its a small PDF.
 
better still, its attached (if anyone at aeris is not happy with this let me know and I will remove)
 

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Has anyone had issues with wet activation?

I have wet activation OFF and have been in watch mode on several occasions - and the watch still activates and goes into dive mode when submerged.
 
@Doug: Suggestion for improvement: mention the date with OR instead of the temperature of the dive. Browsing back trough previous dives now doesn't show a date (what's the point of a logbook without a date?).

Perhaps a good idea to display it before the first interval (0:00) of the Dive Profile (PRO-mode) :

__No 15__
__12.34__ (time of day, no AM/PM when in 24h mode)
_07.01.10_ (dd.mm.yy depending on D-M settings)


that would make it SO much more practical!


Re battery low indicator: hasn't shown in weeks, but LCD goes blank from time to time, then beeps together with 1 led-flash and then back to normal.
 
I join ptoot in his critical statement - the logbook doesen't give the date of the dive. This is realy a flaw!

Besides I encountered the same problem as mentioned by WillUnderwater: The dive mode activates despite wet activation set off. I switched back and forth to try to get the f10 NOT to enter in dive mode - no way.
This is particularly annoying for my pool training. The 25m pool where I train is so shallow at one side that every dive computer quits dive mode inevitably. So I prefer using the f10 just as a whatch. But I can't do it, because as I swim into the deeper part of the pool, the f10 enters dive mode automatically and than, back in the shallow part, it enters surface mode while I am still diving ...

Another problem I had:
Already during my first usage of the f10 immediatly after purchase the low battery sign appeared, but I went on using it. about two month later I had the "Change battery" sign blinking. so i performed the change, although the battery should last much longer than only a few months (and in this time I had used it intensively for only two weeks). Yesterday I went to the pool with the f10, the first time after the battery change, and there it was again: the low bat icon. How is that possible? The new battery is a Varta, so no crap item.

And another problem: Since I last set the exact daytime (about a month ago) the whatch must have got the winter blues - it was back for more than 7 min! i was quite bewildered when I noticed that yesterday. I will check that attentively for the next month.

Don't know. I really like the f10 al lot for diving. It has a wonderfully clear and big display, temp is always and easily accessible ... but I must say, the more I use it, the more i notice some flaws that leave me a bit disappointed.

Please also share your experiences! I really hope that Doug Krause reads this thread from time to time. It would be nice, Doug, if you could give as also some feedback from your side as you see our feedbacks come in.

Cheers,

Ivo
 
@scorp:

I recognise a lot of the things you mentioned: the almost instant 'low battery' alerts (my lcd screen goes blank now, contrast dims to nothing, then beeps and blinks and comes back without battery alarm for days), the wet- activation, the incredible time difference (you easily lose minutes in a matter of days).

I never really understood the logic of FREE mode (runs for hours, how do you stop it?) and the stopwatch.

Apparently a lot of testing went into the development of this watch, but -to me- not quite enough. It had been received with a lot of praise even before any mortal had it around his wrist, any idea was welcome at that time.

Now, months after its launch, it's become very quiet. Time for a thorough review and firmware updates and for the company to follow up some of the ideas.

To me, it's a great watch for non-pool dives.

As a watch (inaccurate), an alarm (too short, too silent), stopwatch (make sure it stays dry when buddying!) or logbook (what day!?) it is not useful.

The depth and interval alarms: They're all the same pitch, and some alerts do take their time: I mean "3 one-second beeps" for RDI (repeating depth interval), come on! Sure, nice enough if you dive to -100m. Change pitch or add rhythm/melody/morse to the alarms. Anything, but stay under 1 second with alerts (except for alarm: no 1-second beeps ever woke ME up) .

Great things:
Large LCD screen, good contrast, great backlight duration, red led to compensate for low volume (5mm hood + pro-plugs = near deaf), good strap.

Logging the temperature has NO relevance whatsoever for my dives, I much rather see a DATE in my logged dives. But if you do log, I'd rather see the depth of the thermocline (by logging temp every 1 second) than the lowest value. (Yep, still 4°C like the past two months).
 
Reading all this, I think The F10 really can use a major software update.

Would anyone like to make an complete to do list, with the flaws and proposed improvement / change?
 
i used mine again at the weekend. battery light half on (i have only used it on 5 dive days).

It now just stays in dive mode for ever, for example showing a 20:00 minute dive (I'm not that good yet) and no amount of button pressing will take it out of that mode. Only the two lower left fields are visible: the dive time (like 20 minutes) and the depth (always 1M at surface, then some non-correct depth while down).

I am going to try a battery change, if that does not work it will be back to seller, or ebay for another soul to figure out.

I must state very clearly that the above are probably 90% of my user errors, it is just getting a little tiring.
 
something that'd be useful to me is a personal threshold value: as all my 'deep' dives are gone and replaced in memory by -3.5m 28°C pooldives. (Except for deepest and longest dive). In that case I would enter 4m and log all dives done outside the pool...

Anyway, Aeris has received plenty of good ideas, not implemented (m)any and it's time for some bugfixing now rather than daydreaming...
 
I've had zero problems since I got mine. Its in the pool every day. To get out of free mode hold the mode button down for about 4 seconds.
 
Hi Fondueset, in regard to pool use, can you also put freedive mode off ? - like I can in my D3.

I reckon it would be need when Doug Krauss would chime in and tells us when and where the software patches are available, and what will be fixed.

Oh dear Doug where are you?
 
I don't think so - but I haven't tried. I just use it to count laps since it activates too deep for the shallow end. I wonder if wet activation just turns that function off - but depth still triggers it.
 
I have wet activation OFF.

I have made dives to below threshold and the dive mode still comes on - even though computer isn't in free mode. I thought the entire point of wet activation is to prevent this from happening unless you want it to in which you would put the computer into free mode prior to first dive..
 
Right. What I'm thinking is that wet activation has some purpose separate from depth activation - though I do not know what. And that the option to turn it off exists to save the battery - because the second processor kicks in in dive/wet mode. I don't really know though (I should probably read the manual!) Hopefully Doug will pick up the thread and explain it to us.
 
The manual on page 11 says when wet activation is OFF the F10 must be in FREE mode prior to first dive or else it will stay in watch mode.

this isn't true for my f10. it goes into dive mode regardless.
 
Hotswapped the battery today, easy task and only 3 euro for a brand battery! :)

@Doug: note for developers: When hotswap is perforrmed, the logbook is kept, so are SETU and SETA settings, but alarmclock settings are lost.
 
Unrelated to programming, I would like to see a better way to strap the F10 on. The problems are:

1. The strap extension is awkward and hard to tighten. There is little to no stretch.

2. You don't have to go very deep before a 7mm suit compresses enough to make the computer spin and slide on your arm.

3. If one pin, buckle, or strap fails your $400 investment is lost.

4. A good solution for mountung on a thick wetsuit is probably completely counter to a surface wrist watch. Like all the competitors, the F10's wrist band is a mediocre solution for both.

The most functional solution I have seen is popular with the tech divers. DeepSeaSupply's Instrument Mounts are a well executed example:

https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?category=instruments

Basically they are rubber cups that accept the computer and two separate bungee loops hold it to your arm. If one bungee fails, the computer will flop around but it is not lost. You tie the loops to the length needed, but there is a lot of stretch so fit has a wide range. Also the small diameter bungees do a better job of creating friction on the suit. Unfortunately, DeepSeaSupply does not make a module for the Oceanic & Aeris computers. Tooling up for a similar product would probably not make sense for just the Freediving Aeris F10, but the same add-on product could also be sold for all the same-size models used by Scuba and tech divers.

I would be OK with a rubber cup that included slots for the watch band plus two bungees. That would allow it to be quickly converted from a thick wetsuit dive mode to bare wrist mode. The rubber cup also adds some physical protection on the wrist on in a dive bag.
 
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Thanks for the bump... I have been away for far too long. I'll revisit and document your reports and begin to work with the development group. These things take time, I'll do what I can to push it along and to update you all here.
 
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