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News from the 2005 AIDA Pool?
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I got also mens results.
check www.freedivingfinland.net
These are got from Jome by phone, results are by his eys, not official. I don't know others, except Jome said Tanya Streeter did unofficially, some kind out of comp 118 meters in dnf.
check www.freedivingfinland.net
These are got from Jome by phone, results are by his eys, not official. I don't know others, except Jome said Tanya Streeter did unofficially, some kind out of comp 118 meters in dnf.
DNF was in the 50m pool. I think the last record from Tom 175m was also done in a 50m pool in Greece.
Tom hold on the edge of the pool that was not aloved. There was an additional line at the pool edge but Tom didn't see it underwater and went under it right to the edge.
Tom hold on the edge of the pool that was not aloved. There was an additional line at the pool edge but Tom didn't see it underwater and went under it right to the edge.
If my memory serves me correct, Natalia Molchanova looked very fresh on each of the records.
With Stig, it's hard to say, because his surface protocol is peculiar to say the least...I'm not sure about Tom in the 208...It looked like he had problems with the protocol (forgetting to take the goggles off etc), but I only saw it from a distance...But it looked like he came very close to his limit. Someone said that Sam Still had a small samba in qualifying, but I didn't see his performance...
A lot of performances that would have been DQd by the old rules were accepted, but I didn't see any "almost dead" sambas accepted: usually a person with such heavy samba would dip their head in water and be thus DQd as a blackout.
There were a couple of nasty BOs where the safety diver reacted very late and in one case was such a small framed woman that she was unable to keep the big male diver on the surface. I think the reason for this is that the judges have to give the athlete more time to "try" before interviening, or there will be a protest which basically has to be accepted.
The new rules are, in my opinnion, a step in the right direction, but could use some finetuning, like we previously endlessly discussed...In my opinnion, the protocol should be stricter, something that is impossible to complete with visible samba but robust enough that it can be reliably judged.
With Stig, it's hard to say, because his surface protocol is peculiar to say the least...I'm not sure about Tom in the 208...It looked like he had problems with the protocol (forgetting to take the goggles off etc), but I only saw it from a distance...But it looked like he came very close to his limit. Someone said that Sam Still had a small samba in qualifying, but I didn't see his performance...
A lot of performances that would have been DQd by the old rules were accepted, but I didn't see any "almost dead" sambas accepted: usually a person with such heavy samba would dip their head in water and be thus DQd as a blackout.
There were a couple of nasty BOs where the safety diver reacted very late and in one case was such a small framed woman that she was unable to keep the big male diver on the surface. I think the reason for this is that the judges have to give the athlete more time to "try" before interviening, or there will be a protest which basically has to be accepted.
The new rules are, in my opinnion, a step in the right direction, but could use some finetuning, like we previously endlessly discussed...In my opinnion, the protocol should be stricter, something that is impossible to complete with visible samba but robust enough that it can be reliably judged.
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One more thing about rules. In this competition, the protocol was judged as:
"you can say or do pretty much anything in any order as long as the things mentioned in the protocol come in the right order at least once during the 20 seconds".
So for example giving an ok-sign and saying "I'm ok" simultaneously would be ok, if you would repeat it again and do it non-simultaneously. Or you could say "f you" to the judge first, and then remove equipment, show ok and say "I'm ok", as long as it's withing 20 seconds.
I don't know what Stig's philosophy is, but it looked like he more or less relied on luck, repeating each of the steps of the protocol as many times and in as many compbinations as humanly possible within 20 seconds and somewhere along the way got one sequence right
"you can say or do pretty much anything in any order as long as the things mentioned in the protocol come in the right order at least once during the 20 seconds".
So for example giving an ok-sign and saying "I'm ok" simultaneously would be ok, if you would repeat it again and do it non-simultaneously. Or you could say "f you" to the judge first, and then remove equipment, show ok and say "I'm ok", as long as it's withing 20 seconds.
I don't know what Stig's philosophy is, but it looked like he more or less relied on luck, repeating each of the steps of the protocol as many times and in as many compbinations as humanly possible within 20 seconds and somewhere along the way got one sequence right
jome said:I don't know what Stig's philosophy is, but it looked like he more or less relied on luck, repeating each of the steps of the protocol as many times and in as many compbinations as humanly possible within 20 seconds and somewhere along the way got one sequence right
This was funny to see rofl . He was just giving ok signs and saying Ok IM OK OK OK and always smiling. I think the whole Swedish team did that also. I too saw Stig and i think he was at least close to a samba in the finals. As for Tom in DYN finals, he was shaking quite a bit. All the WR from Natalia where done perfectly clean. I didn't see any signs of samba at Sams qualifiing and i was like 2m away.