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- Thread starterMr Black
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Bill, Bill
:naughty Not the day after mate!
It's just right after training or the event, otherwise the goodies will be gone.
Take care, gerard.
Ivan, you know where I am contact me anytime. I just hope I get a trip for free in your powerboat when I decide to pay you a visit.
Cheers mate, gerard.
:naughty Not the day after mate!
It's just right after training or the event, otherwise the goodies will be gone.
Take care, gerard.
Ivan, you know where I am contact me anytime. I just hope I get a trip for free in your powerboat when I decide to pay you a visit.
Cheers mate, gerard.
Ben I wanna settle this down
I made a little mistake about Indurain's MHR. Here's is his biosporting profile:
Pulse 28 beats per minute. On average mountain climbs, he manages to keep his pulse below 150 bpm. He reaches his maximum of 195 bpm in Tour de France time trials.
His electrocardiogram
Indurain 28
An average fit person 65
Changes in heart rate
At rest: 28
Medium effort: 150
Maximum effort: ****195****
Blood flow at maximum effort
(in liters per minute)
Indurain: 50
Amateur racer in good condition: 25
LUNG CAPACITY
The size of Indurain's rib cage enables him to have a lung capacity of 7.8 liters. A young amateur racer in good condition has a capacity of up to 6 liters.
Indurain's capacity: 7.8
An average athlete's capacity: 5.8
OXYGEN CONSUMPTION
His VO2 max (minimum oxygen consumption) is 88.
In an ergometer test, Indurain is capable of producing 550 watts of power, twice that of an average amateur racer.
Maximum consumption of oxygen
(in milliliters per kilo per minute)
Indurain: 88
Amateur in good condition: 55
RECUPERATION
Thirty seconds after a race of medium difficulty, Indurain's heart rate drops from 150 bpm to 60 bpm.
DIET
Indurain (188 cm, 78 Kg) in competition is able to burn in an average stage of the Tour de France, he'll burn 6000 Kj (1200 Kj per hour). Therefore hid diet in comp is around that figure.
Regards, gerard.
I made a little mistake about Indurain's MHR. Here's is his biosporting profile:
Pulse 28 beats per minute. On average mountain climbs, he manages to keep his pulse below 150 bpm. He reaches his maximum of 195 bpm in Tour de France time trials.
His electrocardiogram
Indurain 28
An average fit person 65
Changes in heart rate
At rest: 28
Medium effort: 150
Maximum effort: ****195****
Blood flow at maximum effort
(in liters per minute)
Indurain: 50
Amateur racer in good condition: 25
LUNG CAPACITY
The size of Indurain's rib cage enables him to have a lung capacity of 7.8 liters. A young amateur racer in good condition has a capacity of up to 6 liters.
Indurain's capacity: 7.8
An average athlete's capacity: 5.8
OXYGEN CONSUMPTION
His VO2 max (minimum oxygen consumption) is 88.
In an ergometer test, Indurain is capable of producing 550 watts of power, twice that of an average amateur racer.
Maximum consumption of oxygen
(in milliliters per kilo per minute)
Indurain: 88
Amateur in good condition: 55
RECUPERATION
Thirty seconds after a race of medium difficulty, Indurain's heart rate drops from 150 bpm to 60 bpm.
DIET
Indurain (188 cm, 78 Kg) in competition is able to burn in an average stage of the Tour de France, he'll burn 6000 Kj (1200 Kj per hour). Therefore hid diet in comp is around that figure.
Regards, gerard.
Hill climbing at 150 bpm is phenomenal - I find that the most staggering statistic of all of them. If I even look at a hill these days I am up at AT - 175! And that's with a 190 MHR.
It would really interesting to some sport specific testing on freedivers, like this.
It would really interesting to some sport specific testing on freedivers, like this.
Ben
I wish I was Bill Gates. Amongst other projects such as poverty eradication and proper natural environment management programs, I would be traveling all over the world in search og genetically gifted athletes and put them in specific programs. take a look at this example:
Back in Spain in 1996 I met this female sport scientist in Complutense University of Madrid, who after testing my V02 max and MHR she told me the case of a young runner who had a RHR of 17 bpm. Amazing eh! the problem is that that fellow never succeded due to job pressure and lack of a proper family support. She also told me that he also was into spearfishing. Today 2003 no one knows about him. It's really sad. He couldn't have been a really amazing endurance athlete.
And what about all the "unknown genetic marvels" out there who will never succeed?
But these parameters are not why some athletes succeed and others don't. There are so many factors. Indurain is an example of genetics, intelligence, dedication and top support (family, coaches, team, etc.)
Well less talk and more freediving. See ya at the pool.
Regards, gerard.
I wish I was Bill Gates. Amongst other projects such as poverty eradication and proper natural environment management programs, I would be traveling all over the world in search og genetically gifted athletes and put them in specific programs. take a look at this example:
Back in Spain in 1996 I met this female sport scientist in Complutense University of Madrid, who after testing my V02 max and MHR she told me the case of a young runner who had a RHR of 17 bpm. Amazing eh! the problem is that that fellow never succeded due to job pressure and lack of a proper family support. She also told me that he also was into spearfishing. Today 2003 no one knows about him. It's really sad. He couldn't have been a really amazing endurance athlete.
And what about all the "unknown genetic marvels" out there who will never succeed?
But these parameters are not why some athletes succeed and others don't. There are so many factors. Indurain is an example of genetics, intelligence, dedication and top support (family, coaches, team, etc.)
Well less talk and more freediving. See ya at the pool.
Regards, gerard.
On Mark Barville's Freedivelist, I heard a story of a greek diver who lives at immense altitude, in the mountains. He probably has a huge hematocrit from living so long at altitude. Apparently he would come down to sea level a few times per year to go spearfishing.
Even without any practicing or training, on his first day in the water he would be spearfishing repetitively at 45-47m for 3'00+ with something like 1'00 intervals in between dives! With bifins of course.
Eric Fattah
BC, Canada
Even without any practicing or training, on his first day in the water he would be spearfishing repetitively at 45-47m for 3'00+ with something like 1'00 intervals in between dives! With bifins of course.
Eric Fattah
BC, Canada
Following Erics postIt's like the flick "The Big Blue"
where that freediver trains in the "Andes". That would be the ideal training environment. If the H20 was salty that would be the perfect scenario. The cold conditions makes training harder due to the extra O2 needed for thermoregulation.
where that freediver trains in the "Andes". That would be the ideal training environment. If the H20 was salty that would be the perfect scenario. The cold conditions makes training harder due to the extra O2 needed for thermoregulation.
Minotauro
I can help you my "little grasshopper":
1. First check your streamlining technique. Make sure you are swimming with the least drag possible.
This is an example of a streamlined position:
http://www.spma.net/waynestreatch.htm
Obviously underwater it is different if you are not using fins since you'll be adopting a variation of the breastroke.
2. Increase your V02 max. How?
Simply, train, train and train endurance as often (always bearing in mind your personal recovery levels) and as long as in time as possible. It takes years to get the endurance goodies delivered, but when you get them you'll notice amazing improvements in your apnea results.
3. Don't train dynamics too often. Again allow your body to recover. Listen to your body.
4. Practice relaxation or meditation techniques.
Good luck, gerard.
I can help you my "little grasshopper":
1. First check your streamlining technique. Make sure you are swimming with the least drag possible.
This is an example of a streamlined position:
http://www.spma.net/waynestreatch.htm
Obviously underwater it is different if you are not using fins since you'll be adopting a variation of the breastroke.
2. Increase your V02 max. How?
Simply, train, train and train endurance as often (always bearing in mind your personal recovery levels) and as long as in time as possible. It takes years to get the endurance goodies delivered, but when you get them you'll notice amazing improvements in your apnea results.
3. Don't train dynamics too often. Again allow your body to recover. Listen to your body.
4. Practice relaxation or meditation techniques.
Good luck, gerard.
Oops, sorry Gerard, I wasn't trying to have a go at you, I guess I was a little suprised at your comment.
I really do think that doing dynamics/depth diving is the best way to get better at it. I'm sure there is a point at which doing too much will become over-training. But if you look at people that spearfish, some do it several hours in a row. Doing long or close to maximum dynamics/depths would put more stress on your body compared to spearfishing though, so you wouldn't be able to do quite as much in comparison.
It's just reading some of these forums it looks like a lot of beginners place too much emphasis on fitness and think this will improve their apnea ability the most. I know when I have been at my peak "Diving fitness" I have certainly not been at my peak Aerobic or "normal" fitness. Not sure if that makes sense.
Cheers,
Wal
I really do think that doing dynamics/depth diving is the best way to get better at it. I'm sure there is a point at which doing too much will become over-training. But if you look at people that spearfish, some do it several hours in a row. Doing long or close to maximum dynamics/depths would put more stress on your body compared to spearfishing though, so you wouldn't be able to do quite as much in comparison.
It's just reading some of these forums it looks like a lot of beginners place too much emphasis on fitness and think this will improve their apnea ability the most. I know when I have been at my peak "Diving fitness" I have certainly not been at my peak Aerobic or "normal" fitness. Not sure if that makes sense.
Cheers,
Wal